Twitter feminists in awe of Pakistan man with stay at home wife

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Truthfully, I respect it. Because honestly I run shyt because I have to. Which I believe is the underlying issue in this thread. How can black women rest in their femininity and submissive if their conditions do not allow for it?
Because these black women create situations where they lead, fukk it up, then want to blame everyone else for the outcome
 

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When I say support, I’m speaking about a common pattern I’ve seen in some relationships where a.) the woman is expected to have no aspirations outside of the home sphere or b.) is expected to manage her aspirations AND still be solely responsible for household duties or c.) delay her interests only to not get the same level of reciprocity from their spouses in return.

For instance, in my doctoral program male professors were legit straight up with us. They called it the marriage killer for women. At first we thought they were exaggerating. But I saw it play out time and time again. We had a large number of older women pursuing their degrees after their kids were in college or when things were more manageable in the home. But after years of working, seeing about the kids, cooking, cleaning, the works, their husbands didn’t support them when it was their turn to pursue their dreams…get this…even if their advanced degree would have increased money coming into the household.

And I’m not talking about combative chicks like some automatically stereotype educated women for being. I’m talking about mousy nerds getting cheated on. I’ve shared this story here before. But one woman was in the middle of sharing an AMAZING intervention she developed at a research conference and she couldn’t even get through the presentation b/c her husband kept blowing up her phone. Not b/c of an emergency. But b/c he didn’t wanna take care of the kids he helped create….for a weekend.:mjlol:

It’s a running joke amongst female academics that part of the reason male researchers often produce more work is b/c they have wives. One professor even mentioned “dang I wish I had a wife so I could work on grants without worrying about stuff.”

Historivally, contributions of women have always been undermined. Historians themselves will tell you there’s an entire world of literature on the history of women in countless civilizations that goes unknown.

Part of many current women’s desires for new conceptions of relationships is not only avoiding the necessity of women being synonymous with just the domestic sphere, but also having support from partners if/when they do step out of roles not traditionally ascribed to their gender.
A lot of men have become better at this. But I can tell you, many men still struggle with it.

And none of this means that every woman is a bastion of support and love b/c there’s plenty users with vaginas as well.

That's truly horrible, I could never :picard: what you're asking for isn't even basic support, it's like, the absence of a negative influence on your activities. How is that acceptable? I think that being supportive in an emotional and strategic type of way (i.e. being motivating and encouraging, and sharing advice) is the bare minimum expectation to have out of a friend or family member or partner. If a lot of women don't even get that then they shouldn't even stay with that guy, in my opinion.

As for the career stuff, that's unfortunate. I think that it's important to get the "preparation" phase of your life out of the way before the commitment and responsibility phase begins. Getting an education, moving through lower positions in the workforce, having your finances in order, getting a stable and secure living environment, etc. is all preparation. You're not ready to have kids until you get all that preparation finished first, because once you have kids your life is no longer about you, it's about them. They deserve and need the better part of your time and attention. This is true for fathers and mothers both. That's why it's good to have everything else in your life - education, career, finances etc. - on cruise control by the time you do have kids. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to have to raise young children at the same time as being in a doctoral programme. One of the two must get neglected in that situation.

Funny you should bring up history, I'm an ancient historian and I specialize in political and military history. I have a theory on why women were not really permitted into power or even responsibility outside of the domestic sphere, it has to do with the military organisation of settled societies compared to the military organisation of the nomadic Asian horse societies. The nomads were much more open to being led by a woman than the settled societies. But because they never developed written language, and because today all societies are descended from settled societies, the perception that women are only suitable to run the household has endured.

I would elaborate on this if you're interested, I wrote a 20 page+ essay on it a few years ago.
 
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