Ty Lawson Throwing Shade To Steph Curry's Postseason

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A broken face Mike Conley was cooking Steph when he came back. They had to put Klay on him after those 2 Grizz wins. If Tony Allen wasn't so anemic on offense.... :wow:



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Conley himself admitted the adrenaline got him through that. I don't think that is indicative of how he would play consistently against steph if healthy. Regardless, that seemed to be the Warriors pattern in the playoffs. They started each series off pretty slow, playing careless and then got it together.
 

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Conley himself admitted the adrenaline got him through that. I don't think that is indicative of how he would play consistently against steph if healthy. Regardless, that seemed to be the Warriors pattern in the playoffs. They started each series off pretty slow, playing careless and then got it together.

So who would play better against Steph?

Adrenaline up, but one eyed, facemasked, tweaked ankle Mike Conley, or typical 100% healthy Mike Conley? :jbhmm:

Breh:francis:
 

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:stopitslime: That team is a strippers dream. Whores will be their downfall.

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You really think the Warriors are some choir boys huh? Did you forget the time I told you Klay was in a strip club in DC throwing money around like a madman?

All them nikkas got a stable...that includes ya golden boy.
 
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No it doesn't. Why do yall dudes keep saying this nonsense?

The better team won. Why is this so hard for you to understand? This didn't come outta left field. You're clearly putting far too much stock into these factors that don't outweigh the overall product on the court.

Why are you comparing the 2015 Spurs to the 2005 Spurs, as if they're the same team with players playing in their primes?

Did you forget to mention that Duncan was in his prime, and Manu and Parker still had a clean bill of health? Do you really think a 39-year-old Duncan, a 33-year-old Parker and a 38-year-old Manu would've been able to beat that 2005 Suns team? You're clearly living in the past with this Spurs team - this is why I said before - you can't strictly go on what has happened in the past. This is the reason why you're still bewildered that the Clippers won. Instead of looking at how teams CURRENTLY are, you're going all the way back to 10 years ago; referencing an instance when they were younger and better.

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So what you're saying is, BG wasn't a top 2 player in that series? :mjlol:

That same band of old motley vets knocked off a "super team" the previous year.Not just beat, but completely dismantled them.They're older, but it's the same core of battle tested players/coach that out-executes, out-coaches, and plays with a higher basketball IQ than any other team in basketball.

The Clips with Blake & Deandre have alway been like a "dumb jock" squad to me.Talented, yet, they tend to do bone headed shyt, and get in their own way.Not to mention the -mindless launcher- Jamal Crawford.

Blake Griffin might be superficially better than Duncan, but if I was going into a gm 7 of the NBA Finals tomorrow, give me the old man

Chris Paul, yeah, he's better than anybody on the Spurs.IMO, he's one of the most underappreciated GREAT players in the game today.He has "it".It's deeper than stats.Especially in the playoffs when the games get thick down the stretch.A time when Blake's known to go "deer in the headlights" mode.CP3 going Super Saiyan is what got the Clips that W.As corny & cliche as it might sound, that man has the heart of a champion.


Beyond that, it's a game of match-ups.You're a Warriors fan, so u already know that.Go back to '06.The Mavs won 67 games.Based on what they did in the regular season, GS had no business winning that series.They just had more heart & punked the fukk outta that Mavs team.

The Clips knock out the Spurs and then lose in 7 to a Rockets team that I'm 99.9% sure the Spurs would crush.
 

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You really think the Warriors are some choir boys huh? Did you forget the time I told you Klay was in a strip club in DC throwing money around like a madman?

All them nikkas got a stable...that includes ya golden boy.
Not many on our team has kids out of wedlock breh. Iggy was the only one but he married her.
 

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So who would play better against Steph?

Adrenaline up, but one eyed, facemasked, tweaked ankle Mike Conley, or typical 100% healthy Mike Conley? :jbhmm:

Breh:francis:

Man, Conley wasn't missing anything that game. He's a good player, but he played out of his mind that game. Of course a 100% healthy Conley would have a better series, the guy wore down. But he wouldn't be game 1 Conley all series, that's crazy.

And i'm not saying nobody can give Steph trouble by making him work defensively, but there is just too much talk about how the Warriors would have lost if this or that. You just never know how a series will go with these types of changes.
 

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That's because you're stupid.

Parker could barely run out there. He had ankle/achilles and thigh problems. He clearly wasn't in any state to carry the scoring load. The Warriors defense would've suffocated him on any PNR situation. And I don't know why you're speaking as if CP was guarding Parker by himself during the entire series.
:dame: I said nothing that you wrote in that soliloquy b:comeon:
 
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'That same band of old motley vets knocked off a "super team" the previous year.Not just beat, but completely dismantled them.They're older, but it's the same core of battle tested players/coach that out-executes, out-coaches, and plays with a higher basketball IQ than any other team in basketball.
That's because they had demons to exorcise (losing to the Heat in damning fashion the season before), not to mention they were all relatively healthy. One can't expect them to replicate that type of drive and hunger a season later, when they basically had nothing (not in the literal sense) left to fight for. You see, you can't depend on the nature of battle tested players and IQ, as if that has value-precedence over talent and ability. This is why them losing left you bewildered, because you either misinterpret how basketball works or you didn't watch enough Clippers games.

I mean how can you say the magnitude of this loss was an anomaly to the point where these teams weren't on any level, evenly matched? It doesn't make one bit of sense.
The Clips with Blake & Deandre have alway been like a "dumb jock" squad to me.Talented, yet, they tend to do bone headed shyt, and get in their own way.Not to mention the -mindless launcher- Jamal Crawford.
They're also a team that won more games than SA and have TWO top-10 players in the league. In order for this to be an upset of historical proportion -- according to you -- they would need to have a record that basically is out of the immediate possibility of them progressing past the first round and have no player with any notable elite qualities.

This is what I don't understand on how YOU don't understand that the Clippers had a realistic chance of winning in the first place.
Blake Griffin might be superficially better than Duncan, but if I was going into a gm 7 of the NBA Finals tomorrow, give me the old man.
This sounds like a code word for "Yeah he's a better player but I don't like him".
Chris Paul, yeah, he's better than anybody on the Spurs.IMO, he's one of the most underappreciated GREAT players in the game today.
He's far from one of the most underappreciated GREAT players in the game - in fact he's quite the opposite. There's a reason he receives the least amount of criticism out of all the elite players in the league.
'He has "it".It's deeper than stats.Especially in the playoffs when the games get thick down the stretch.A time when Blake's known to go "deer in the headlights" mode.CP3 going Super Saiyan is what got the Clips that W.As corny & cliche as it might sound, that man has the heart of a champion.
You mean to say that when Griffin is exhausted from carrying the scoring load during the first three quarters (with minimal help from CP), only then does Paul go into scoring-mode late in the game - instead of ya'know balancing out when to shoot and pass?
Beyond that, it's a game of match-ups.You're a Warriors fan, so u already know that.Go back to '06.The Mavs won 67 games.Based on what they did in the regular season, GS had no business winning that series.They just had more heart & punked the fukk outta that Mavs team.
I'm not a Warriors fan, I'm a basketball fan.

Actually, the Warriors had every business winning that series -

The eighth-seeded Golden State Warriors snuck into the playoffs on the last day of the season, finishing with a 42-40 record. Their first round playoff opponent was the Dallas Mavericks, the NBA’s top team with a 67-15 regular season record. The Warriors stunned the Mavs in six games, a resounding and shocking series victory some called the greatest upset in NBA history. The Warriors actually made it look pretty easy, defeating the Mavs by 12, 18, 4, and 25 points in their four victories and losing one game they were in position to win. Watching the games, they did not seem like upsets; the Warriors appeared to be the more confident, accomplished squad, the team expecting to win. The Mavericks looked like the lower-seeded team.

How were the Warriors able to pull this off?


First off, it should be recognized that these Warriors were no ordinary 42-40 team. At one point this season, they stood 26-35. They finished the season 16-5, including 9-1 during the last ten games of the season. A January 17 trade with the Indiana Pacers brought Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington to the Warriors and dramatically changed the complexion of the team, though it took a couple months for the team to gel.


The key is, when they finally did gel, the Warriors almost magically morphed into the rare “positive sum” team better than the sum of their players. The closest thing the Warriors have to a superstar is oft-injured and physically unimposing point guard Baron Davis. A career 41% shooter (32% on 3s), Davis had not garnered a reputation as a player who improves the play of teammates (a la Steve Nash). Other star players, such as Jackson and Jason Richardson, have never been known as great team players either. Yet somehow this motley crew of castoffs, unwanted young players, and mediocre talents surged together into a tough and exciting band of ballers unintimidated by anyone and capable of embarrassing the finest teams in the world.


One of my favorite concepts is synergy, defined by American Heritage as “the interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.” Basketball is the most synergistic of the major sports, and the Warriors have more of it than any team I can remember watching, with the possible exception of the modern Phoenix Suns, another pedal-to-the-medal horde of gunners and dream Western Conference Finals Warriors opponent. Whether this synergy came from the work of GM Chris Mullin, coach Don Nelson, improved leadership from Davis, or dumb luck is hard to say. Whether by design or chance, the Warriors maximize their talent incredibly efficiently.


The Warriors also matched up extremely well against the Mavericks. Many likened them to kryptonite to the Mavs’ Superman. The Warriors went 6-1 against the Mavs during the regular season the last two years, and have now won 10 of their last 13 games against them. Thoroughly analyzing the specific player characteristics that give the Warriors a head-to-head edge over the Mavs would be too dense and scientific for all but the most hardcore basketball pundits, but the numbers make it clear that something about Golden State just gives Dallas difficulty.


Coach Don Nelson, who captained the Mavs into a powerful franchise before being put out to pasture by owner Mark Cuban after too many early playoff exits, was hired right before the season. Mullin and Nelson decided to roll the dice and turn the Warriors into a wild, balls-to-the-wall regiment in the mold of the present Suns and Nelson’s early-decade Mavs barnburners. As former coach and architect of the Mavericks, Nelson knows their weaknesses better than anyone – and how to exploit them. Nelson has never led a team to the NBA Finals, but he may have been the best coaching choice on earth if the goal was to beat the Dallas Mavericks.

The Clips knock out the Spurs and then lose in 7 to a Rockets team that I'm 99.9% sure the Spurs would crush.
It was only a 'perfect storm' that had the Rockets coming back in Game 6 against LAC, when they were down by 19/20 points late in the third-quarter. I'm 99.9% sure that we're unlikely to see a situation/result that mirrors that in our lifetime. Not to mention, the Clippers were emotionally spent from the previous series, to the point where they couldn't mentally put back up their guard, after dropping it in that game.
 
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He's discrediting what Steph did in the playoffs. He's doing the same shyt you nikkas do and that's saying he didn't have to play any point guards in the postseason.
where is the discredit? he 's basically saying look at the guy he was facing at his position. that guy didnt have the game to go back at him to at least make him have to play legit defense to possibly tire him out. nothing tha Tlaw said was incorrect. so it sounds like a gstate fan over exaggerating.
 
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where is the discredit? he 's basically saying look at the guy he was facing at his position. that guy didnt have the game to go back at him to at least make him have to play legit defense to possibly tire him out. nothing tha Tlaw said was incorrect. so it sounds like a gstate fan over exaggerating.
To be fair to @Blackthoughts, Lawson has been throwin shots at the Warriors before they even won the championship -

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/ty-l...hem-light-skinned-guys-better-not-win.339115/
 

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With Lawson Houston is gonna be a contender. Hell, they were a pretty good RS team last year. GS-LAC-HOU top 3 in the West. That over on the Rockets going to be mighty profitable :banderas:
 
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