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How so? They’re fighting against the entire NATO alliance and are still winning the war.

The most overestimated military is the United States who has lost every military conflict it’s been involved in since WW2 despite spending ungodly sums of money annually. Russia is fighting an actual standing army and is winning meanwhile the US spent $20 trillion and 20 years to fight goat herders in flip flops and lost :dead:

how many NATO troops in ukraine and how many KIA so far? how many troops have Turkey committed to NATO fighting against russia?
 

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The kingdom of nubia and the cushyte army shall unite to topple the occupants illegal spaces.

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If NATO is pooling their resources together to provide the vast majority of all military intelligence and equipment being used in the Ukraine, then Russia is fighting against NATO. There is no article 5 and the Ukraine isn’t even a NATO member.
NATO is not fighting in Ukraine. Maybe if they were enforcing a blockade or no fly zone, you'd have a point.
 

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Stfu.
NATO is giving Ukraine weapons and intel. Than is not the same as fighting all of NATO and Russia is not winning this "special military operation".

Did the US get booted out of Afghanistan after 20 years? Yup, and the Soviets got booted out in 9 years.

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The U.S. war in Afghanistan lasted about 20 years, resulting in approximately 2,324 U.S. military deaths and around 3,917 contractor deaths. In contrast, during the Soviet-Afghan War from 1979 to 1989, the Soviet Union suffered around 15,000 military deaths, while Afghan casualties included an estimated 1.5 million civilians and around 70,000 Afghan military personnel. United States Institute of Peace The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S.

Casualties in the U.S. War in Afghanistan​

The U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan lasted from 2001 to 2021. The casualties include:
CategoryNumber of Casualties
U.S. Military Personnel2,324
U.S. Contractors3,917
Allied Troops1,144
Afghan Military and Police70,000
Afghan Civilians46,319 (estimated)
Opposition Fighters53,000

Casualties in the Soviet-Afghan War​

The Soviet Union's military intervention in Afghanistan lasted from 1979 to 1989. The casualties include:
CategoryNumber of Casualties
Soviet PersonnelApproximately 15,000
Afghan Military PersonnelEstimated 1 million
Afghan CiviliansEstimated 1.5 million
Both conflicts resulted in significant loss of life, with the Afghan population suffering the most in terms of civilian casualties.
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How are you 0/6 and yet are still able to occupy so many nations? America “lost” Korea, yet South Korea still exist and NK just pouts from the DMZ. America “lost”(probably the most legitimate loss) Vietnam because America finally decided to pull out. How is America 0 in 6? :dead:


And yes, how are you simultaneously the preeminent colonial super power and a yet overrated militarily? That don’t add up. :yeshrug:
America lost the Korean War because the goal of US intervention was to create a unified non-communist state, which didn’t happen.

Korean War = L
Vietnam = L
Iraq war = L
Afghanistan war = L
Israel proxy war on Palestine = L (Hamas still isn’t defeated despite mass murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians)
Proxy war/s against Russia = L (Russia successfully annexed the crimea and historically Russian parts of Ukraine)

I don’t think you understand what overrated means. Overrated doesn’t mean the US doesn’t have a strong military. It means our military doesn’t have the results comparative to the amount of resources we dedicate to it. At $1 trillion we shouldn’t be getting into and losing 20 year conflicts against farmers and nomadic herders :dead:
 

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NATO is not fighting in Ukraine. Maybe if they were enforcing a blockade or no fly zone, you'd have a point.
NATO doesn’t have to be directly fighting in Ukraine, they’re supplying all of the weapons, training, and intelligence. Not to mention the sanctions as well. Russia is fighting against NATO air defense systems, ammunition, artillery, etc, not Ukrainian.

That’s like saying a rapper like lil durk supplying the money that a gang uses to buy drugs and guns isn’t responsible for crime because he’s not the one directly committing the crime.
 

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Does feel like Russia is trying to push the stalemate with Ukraine into a WW so Iran and China can get involved explicitly
 

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how many NATO troops in ukraine and how many KIA so far? how many troops have Turkey committed to NATO fighting against russia?
Aren’t you just repeating the same talking point other posters made?

How many air defense systems, artillery shells, missiles, M1 Abrams tanks, drones, helicopters, small ammunitions has NATO commited to the Ukraine?


NATO is the only reason the Ukraine hasn’t completely lost yet Russia isn’t fighting against NATO? How does that make sense to you?
 

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NATO doesn’t have to be directly fighting in Ukraine, they’re supplying all of the weapons, training, and intelligence. Not to mention the sanctions as well. Russia is fighting against NATO air defense systems, ammunition, artillery, etc, not Ukrainian.

That’s like saying a rapper like lil durk supplying the money that a gang uses to buy drugs and guns isn’t responsible for crime because he’s not the one directly committing the crime.
:deadrose: So you finally admit NATO isn't fighting. Ukrainians are fighting. Thank you!
 

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How so? They’re fighting against the entire NATO alliance and are still winning the war.

The most overestimated military is the United States who has lost every military conflict it’s been involved in since WW2 despite spending ungodly sums of money annually. Russia is fighting an actual standing army and is winning meanwhile the US spent $20 trillion and 20 years to fight goat herders in flip flops and lost :dead:
The KGB has infiltrated the coli brehs :hubie:
 

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We are saying all the trillions wasted on the war machine has not translated to Ws in war. Actually the U.S. has been handed Ls by completely unmatched foes.
Because we have rules and they don't..

If we put real boot to ass like the Israelis do the world will scream and cry.

I actually think we fukked up Afghanistan and Iraq alot worse than what media reports. But I get the visuals.


If iraq Afghan are Ls for Us then what is Ukraine for Putin?
 

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As much as I criticize the US military this isn’t true in any capacity. You might want to study each US conflict in those years you talk about. We don’t just win wars but we occupy their spaces permanently . You can’t name a war in which we didn’t do that or just dismantle their forces completely. we have the most international bases in the entire world by far. Only the strongest military can do that without interference. We weren’t ran out of the Middle East and are still there. And I’m not championing our military , I did 4 years and dipped and super anti establishment , but we have the strongest and only china comes close . All of the intelligence and drones and tech china showed in they parade we been had. Former Recon Marine.. and like others have mentioned, fighting the taliban is a unconventional enemy, but all targets in that current regime following 911 were eliminated . Of course new ones are going to sprout up. We invade other countries ( which I don’t like) …but no one tries to come here for a reason

So much "we" when Trump is currently trying to whiten the military as much as possible. Damn, at least throw in it or they sometimes
 
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