UK brehs, what is UKIP?
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JOHN.KOOL
Manchester United/Atletico Madrid
UK Independence Party. Its a political Party in the UK that right now is getting alot of media coverage because of their success in the last European elections despite racist comments made but its leaders. What most people dont realise however is the manipulating hand behind all this. UKIP was a nothing until the media stated going on and on about them and their possible threat at the elections just before they started. UKIP is being used to create divisions in society just like they cast the BNP (British National Party) and the EDL (English Defence League) in the same role earlier.
The media spends months going on and on about how immigration is a problem and how we too many illegal immigrants taking British jobs, then the ignorant and blindly patriotic British follow parties like UKIP or the BNP who repeat the same media script. The media then begin reporting on racism by leaders and prominent members of these parties and soon enough we have Britain divided with one group thinking there's too many immigrants and another thinking the people who think that are just racist, and if they aren't racist now then their ignorance means that during this whole thing by the end of it they become racist. Meanwhile the media heads and the racist heads of these political parties sit down together and just watch the carnage unfold and all they had to do was follow the scripts drawn up and handed to them by British Intelligence Services.
The media spends months going on and on about how immigration is a problem and how we too many illegal immigrants taking British jobs, then the ignorant and blindly patriotic British follow parties like UKIP or the BNP who repeat the same media script. The media then begin reporting on racism by leaders and prominent members of these parties and soon enough we have Britain divided with one group thinking there's too many immigrants and another thinking the people who think that are just racist, and if they aren't racist now then their ignorance means that during this whole thing by the end of it they become racist. Meanwhile the media heads and the racist heads of these political parties sit down together and just watch the carnage unfold and all they had to do was follow the scripts drawn up and handed to them by British Intelligence Services.
the artist known az
Hail the victors
Sounds like the Tea Party here
The growth of UKIP ,is in response to the two main parties the tory party (conservatives ) and labour (socialist) fighting over a small bit of ground in terms of policy, both have moved their ideology into the middle ground,. Which has meant that many people feel they are not represented anymore by the politicians in this country, so they look for an alternative.
I would argue that before Farage took over UKIP was very similar to the tea party, being extremely libertarian on economic policy and very right wing on immigration and law and order for instance. Farage however realised that the goings were small in terms of voters he could attract and that the goings were good in traditional labour party voters ,who feel they cannot vote BNP (british nationalist party) because it is openly racist, anti semetic and has extremely unpleasant looking and acting people who run it. Farage also looked back through political history and saw how enoch powell a right wing conservative attracted voters from across the political spectrum despite his background. Powell at one point had 80 percent approval ratings by british people for his policies, and could have become Prime minister if a few political events had happened different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell
Powell ,leaving aside his at that time 'unfashionable views' about immigration was pro russia , anti america, against nuclear weapons and believed Britain should get rid of them, believed in an isolationist foreign policy he believed Britain should distance itself from the US, and instead forge a close alliance with russia against the emerging EU power block. Similar in some ways to Ron Paul. Powells weakness and one farage is probably aware of ,was he was guilty of being 'too clever by half'. He was argubly the most intelligent man to ever enter british politics and due to this people would mis interpret his speeches and writings, he was no racist, but being a typical academic he had not enough personal awareness of how his comments might be interpreted by not just the left,but also actual racists who would try to ally with him for their own ends.
Farage is obviously trying to emulate powell's success he even admits he is an admirer , enoch powell is the only british nationalist who ever came near to being PM, the others are jokes or unserious. However Farage is a mere showman and not fit to shine Powells boots , I don't believe he is a racist, or other senior UKIP members, but they are typical politicians, they try and show themselves as men and women of the people when they are not, and they are just like the tory party due to the UKIP threat and to a lesser extent labour trying to attract votes from frustrated british people who have become much more intolerant due to mistakes made by the past labour government ,as they opened the borders for years and let in huge numbers of people from eastern europe. So all parties are creating a caustic nasty environment for their own ends.
Powell was the only British politician to stand up in the house of commons and condemn the slaughter of indian prisoners by british colonial troops (back when Britains occupied india) and demanded the british soliders that did it, be held to account. He was a man of honour, and a rare breed even back then for a politician. I as a british nationalist would vote for such a man.
So UKIP if you notice under farage, has actually moved to the left on certain areas of politics, I won't say policies as they don't have them yet, but farage is after labour voters, so especially in the north of england he is condemning tory welfare cuts,talking positively about the National Health service and speaking about british jobs for british workers, and being more socially conservative, as the old labour party was, the new labour party isn't.
So in it's current form UKIP has little in common with the US tea party, apart from rhetoric about being 'anti establishment' and ranting about the media and political elite,in terms of ideology no.I think, UKIP is nearer these days to the french front nationale, minus anti semitism, thats one thing UKIP cannot be accused of ,many of the biggest donors are jewish.
I would argue that before Farage took over UKIP was very similar to the tea party, being extremely libertarian on economic policy and very right wing on immigration and law and order for instance. Farage however realised that the goings were small in terms of voters he could attract and that the goings were good in traditional labour party voters ,who feel they cannot vote BNP (british nationalist party) because it is openly racist, anti semetic and has extremely unpleasant looking and acting people who run it. Farage also looked back through political history and saw how enoch powell a right wing conservative attracted voters from across the political spectrum despite his background. Powell at one point had 80 percent approval ratings by british people for his policies, and could have become Prime minister if a few political events had happened different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell
Powell ,leaving aside his at that time 'unfashionable views' about immigration was pro russia , anti america, against nuclear weapons and believed Britain should get rid of them, believed in an isolationist foreign policy he believed Britain should distance itself from the US, and instead forge a close alliance with russia against the emerging EU power block. Similar in some ways to Ron Paul. Powells weakness and one farage is probably aware of ,was he was guilty of being 'too clever by half'. He was argubly the most intelligent man to ever enter british politics and due to this people would mis interpret his speeches and writings, he was no racist, but being a typical academic he had not enough personal awareness of how his comments might be interpreted by not just the left,but also actual racists who would try to ally with him for their own ends.
Farage is obviously trying to emulate powell's success he even admits he is an admirer , enoch powell is the only british nationalist who ever came near to being PM, the others are jokes or unserious. However Farage is a mere showman and not fit to shine Powells boots , I don't believe he is a racist, or other senior UKIP members, but they are typical politicians, they try and show themselves as men and women of the people when they are not, and they are just like the tory party due to the UKIP threat and to a lesser extent labour trying to attract votes from frustrated british people who have become much more intolerant due to mistakes made by the past labour government ,as they opened the borders for years and let in huge numbers of people from eastern europe. So all parties are creating a caustic nasty environment for their own ends.
Powell was the only British politician to stand up in the house of commons and condemn the slaughter of indian prisoners by british colonial troops (back when Britains occupied india) and demanded the british soliders that did it, be held to account. He was a man of honour, and a rare breed even back then for a politician. I as a british nationalist would vote for such a man.
So UKIP if you notice under farage, has actually moved to the left on certain areas of politics, I won't say policies as they don't have them yet, but farage is after labour voters, so especially in the north of england he is condemning tory welfare cuts,talking positively about the National Health service and speaking about british jobs for british workers, and being more socially conservative, as the old labour party was, the new labour party isn't.
So in it's current form UKIP has little in common with the US tea party, apart from rhetoric about being 'anti establishment' and ranting about the media and political elite,in terms of ideology no.I think, UKIP is nearer these days to the french front nationale, minus anti semitism, thats one thing UKIP cannot be accused of ,many of the biggest donors are jewish.
Reading the comments I agree
BocaRear
The World Is My Country, To Do Good Is My Religion
It's the same old white people crying reverse-racism/political correctness & oppression.
These CACs feel that immigrants are taking over when that's really not the case. All the immigrants are in London's & all the whites have fled to the suburbs. Outside of London, the UK is CAC central.
What's scary is that, a lotta people are supporting this idea of "taking back their country" & nationalism & this is happening ALL across the western world.
In Europe it's happening in Greece, which is pretty much a neo-nazi shyt hole now.
In France, we have nationalist parties gaining crazy votes,
In the US, well we already know how CACs are acting reckless
White people really can't handle life without having someone to oppress & serve them, this is just showing that #inherently is true. These people are so entitled & can't deal with equality.
These CACs feel that immigrants are taking over when that's really not the case. All the immigrants are in London's & all the whites have fled to the suburbs. Outside of London, the UK is CAC central.
What's scary is that, a lotta people are supporting this idea of "taking back their country" & nationalism & this is happening ALL across the western world.
In Europe it's happening in Greece, which is pretty much a neo-nazi shyt hole now.
In France, we have nationalist parties gaining crazy votes,
In the US, well we already know how CACs are acting reckless
White people really can't handle life without having someone to oppress & serve them, this is just showing that #inherently is true. These people are so entitled & can't deal with equality.
body snatcher
Banned
It's the same old white people crying reverse-racism/political correctness & oppression.
These CACs feel that immigrants are taking over when that's really not the case. All the immigrants are in London's & all the whites have fled to the suburbs. Outside of London, the UK is CAC central.
What's scary is that, a lotta people are supporting this idea of "taking back their country" & nationalism & this is happening ALL across the western world.
In Europe it's happening in Greece, which is pretty much a neo-nazi shyt hole now.
In France, we have nationalist parties gaining crazy votes,
In the US, well we already know how CACs are acting reckless
White people really can't handle life without having someone to oppress & serve them, this is just showing that #inherently is true. These people are so entitled & can't deal with equality.
Are you just going to ignore the fact that the majority of immigrants are white from eastern europe?
Are you just going to ignore the fact that the majority of immigrants are white from eastern europe?
He's fishing for daps, I was about to say the same thing. UKIP are anti-EU.
BocaRear
The World Is My Country, To Do Good Is My Religion
Are you just going to ignore the fact that the majority of immigrants are white from eastern europe?
What difference does that make?
Didn't you see the uproar about Romania joining the EU?
A lot of it is xenophobia & racism disguised as nationalism
UKIP are anti-immigration, them leaving the EU just further shows how they feel superior to new countries like turkey & romania & poland
What difference does that make?
Didn't you see the uproar about Romania joining the EU?
A lot of it is xenophobia & racism disguised as nationalism
UKIP are anti-immigration, them leaving the EU just further shows how they feel superior to new countries like turkey & romania & poland
I agree there will be racists in UKIP, but there are also racists in both the conservatives and labour parties. Just go to a labour party working mens club up north and you will hear some things about black people, asians and women that will make your hair turn white... But that never gets talked about in the media.
In fact if anything UKIP has the most anti racist immigration policy of all parties (at least what the likes of farage, nuttall, and other senior bods make noises about, they don't actually have a manifesto committment yet on immigration) ,their'policy' is that immigrants from outside the european union should not be discriminated against, and that immigrants should be chosen more on what the country needs, essentially a point system,similar to what they have in austrialia. In fact the BNP argue, that under the UKIP 'policy' more immigrants would enter than right now....
And the british have a right to feel superior as a nation Britain along with the united states liberated western europe from two mass murdering psychopaths not too long ago our little island said to a madman with a dodgy moustache 'up yours mate' and soldiers from all over the world our commonwealth brothers , came to help including muslims, the same people who the politicians try to scare is about ... what is wrong with that? I think if people of all races ,religions would feel united and as one it would solve a lot of the divisions in society. Problem is politicians want that divvisiveness, so they don't get the blame they can say 'look at them over there, they are taking you houses ,your health service,your welfare benefits ' etc etc
BocaRear
The World Is My Country, To Do Good Is My Religion
UKIP is a step away from the BNP
, they target the same demographic of racist unemployed white people who feel immigrants are "taking their jobs". Although you're right about all the parties having racists in their cabinet, UKIP is the only party that is bold enough to be overtly racist.You've heard those "bongo bongo land" comments, telling Lenny Henry to go back to a "black country", accusing Romanians of being thieves. Just look at the comments of their supporters in the picture OP provided. The reason why UKIP want out of the EU is to stop the free movement of EU citizens into the UK, they don't want these foreigners coming in & living with them & taking their jobs. They want Britian for British people (Anglo-CACs)
.Their "point" system is just empty promises, the party is ill-organised & hopefully, will never come into power.
& Britain is without a doubt one of the WOAT nations, the atrocities they've caused are
. The shyt they've done around the world is disgusting. & how the fukk have they helped muslims? 
MewTwo
Freeing Pokemon From Their Masters Since 1996
fukking racist scum
Are you just going to ignore the fact that the majority of immigrants are white from eastern europe?
how many of their members ex bnp/edl/NF even?
anytime complaints on immigration focus around "assimilation" its probably gonna lead to racism.
anytime a political party instructs people to "wake up" and "take" something back, its probably gonna be some ignorance that although may not be racist it probably will end up there sooner or later.
Ricky Church
Stole Timberlake's Spaceship-Coupe
you couldn't just google this shyt? 