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However, both of following two conditions must also be satisfied:[77]

  • it appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a police constable to make the arrest instead, and
  • the arrestor has reasonable grounds for believing that the arrest is necessary to prevent one or more of the following:
    • the person causing physical injury to themself or others,
    • the person suffering physical injury,
    • the person causing loss of or damage to property, or
    • the person absconding before a constable can assume responsibility for them
Where an arrest is made after an offence has been committed, the person who makes the arrest must actually know, not simply suspect that an offence has actually been committed. If it later turns out that an offence had not been committed, such an arrest would be unlawful.[78]

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This will be interesting. Starmer is Conservative Lite, and he is in danger of showing no difference to the conservatives.

When Labour want to speak to welfare reform and frame the poorest in society as freeloaders is shows things are broken from the top down.

This isnt just the UK. It's all over. The capitalist model is broken and no one has the courage to ask for a reset.
 

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All they've got going for them is "competence" right now. They think the only reason the Tories didn't get elected again is that people didn't trust them to do the job and because of corruption over COVID, not because they were flirting with the far right and making everyone who doesn't have 7 figures in the bank worse off for 14 fukking years.

The entire country has been creaking under the pressure of "austerity" since the Conservatives took power in the wake of the credit crunch and instead of changing course, Labour are sacrificing their own base for the same approach.

They won't even show any differentiation with immigration. They think they can convince Reform voters to put an X against a Labour candidate if only they blow into the right dogwhistle.

It's not going to work. If they don't change course and give the population something to believe in rather than more things to fear then they'll end up getting replaced with Reform and we'll be back on the fast-track to Trumpism.
 

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:ohhh:

I can only hope they do better than Change UK, but given we still have FPTP... :francis:

(electoral reform post pending)
 

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Oh shyt. I wonder if my MP will go, she's definitely on the left of the left of the party.

I might jump in. This early in the electoral cycle it might actually have time to build some Momentum :troll:
 

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ā€œKeir Starmer and the Labour government have leant into supporting a broken system. Their modus operandi is to mitigate the worst excesses of a broken system and all that is is managed decline. What they’re doing is putting Band-Aids on the gash in the side of the Titanic.ā€

In his most strongly worded attack on Labour yet, Coogan described the party’s priorities in the last year as ā€œa derogation of all the principles they were supposed to representā€.

ā€œWe have a Labour government and it’s no different from a Conservative government in neglecting ordinary people,ā€ he added.
 
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