Umar Johnson Confronted by a LGBT Feminist at KC lecture

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Men period oppress women through a system of patriarchy just like whites oppress blacks through the system of white supremacy. Now YOU may not be actively oppressing black women, but you DO benefit from patriarchy just like all whites may not be actively oppressing blacks, but ALL whites benefit from white supremacy.
This isn't true and it's easily debunked. Racism trumps sexism on every level. For proof just compare white women and black men. White women are privileged in every way in this society over black men. We live in a white male patriarchal society, not a male patriarchal society. This is something black feminists don't seem capable of understanding. To even think that there's such a thing as black make privilege in a society where the black man is public enemy #1 is silly.

Black males' beef with white supremacy is that they can't use it like white men. If given the chance to sit as equals at the table with white men most of you would jump at the chance. No intelligent woman is going to be ok with that. No intelligent woman is going to jump from a society that punishes her for her race and sex to one that punishes her for her sex. It's a lose lose situation.
Again, your mentality is undeniably divisive. All you're basically saying is that as a black woman you see black men as your enemy/oppressors. I get it. You don't think much of black men because you perceive us as oppressors of black women. My thing is, why deny that? When people call your ideology out as being divisive and counterproductive to black unity, why lie instead of just owning up to it?
 

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This isn't true and it's easily debunked. Racism trumps sexism on every level. For proof just compare white women and black men. White women are privileged in every way in this society over black men. We live in a white male patriarchal society, not a male patriarchal society. This is something black feminists don't seem capable of understanding. To even think that there's such a thing as black make privilege in a society where the black man is public enemy #1 is silly.

Again, your mentality is undeniably divisive. All you're basically saying is that as a black woman you see black men as your enemy/oppressors. I get it. You don't think much of black men because you perceive us as oppressors of black women. My thing is, why deny that? When people call your ideology out as being divisive and counterproductive to black unity, why lie instead of just owning up to it?

Don't waste time arguing with a cat lady. She doesn't even know what she believes in. :mjlol:
 

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This talk of "divisiveness" only serves to sweep legitimate concerns and oppressions under the rug. It's the same tactic right-wingers use here in the U.S. when they want to sweep racism under the rug in favor of American nationalism. If you care about social justice at all, it is necessary to understand the concept of intersectionality and how different oppressions interact and reinforce each other.
 

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Men period oppress women through a system of patriarchy just like whites oppress blacks through the system of white supremacy. Now YOU may not be actively oppressing black women, but you DO benefit from patriarchy just like all whites may not be actively oppressing blacks, but ALL whites benefit from white supremacy. Black males' beef with white supremacy is that they can't use it like white men. If given the chance to sit as equals at the table with white men most of you would jump at the chance. No intelligent woman is going to be ok with that. No intelligent woman is going to jump from a society that punishes her for her race and sex to one that punishes her for her sex. It's a lose lose situation.

Name 5 things you love about black men.
 

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Oh look we go a feminist. Rah rah we're big strong men now. You are all so pathetically juvenile. When you get into conversations with people with an ounce of intelligence it truly shows.

So what are you doing to help out the Black community as a Feminist? And where are your comrades? Inquiring minds would like to know. :lupe:
 

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@mrken12 you and I are on completely different planes of intelligence. Guess who's on the higher plane.

He is THE most pathetic poster on this site. I've never seen him contribute anything worthwhile. He literally does nothing but complain about women who defend themselves and then neg rep them.
 
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