Umar vs The Boule (Debate)

[saturn7]

Damn Robert Taylor homes got mentioned, lol.

Boule dude seemed to know some stuff. He got Umar about Vernon Jordan's wife. Umar gets away with generalizing to the uninformed.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Rolling with the Boule.

I respect you made your choice..

But do you have a plan B for when the gravy train runs out? Because the boule is only good for manipulating the black community..

Once their is no use for the black community, from white people, there would be no need for the black boule..

 

[ThrobbingHood]

I hate that he's become a meme

It’s actually worked in his favor. More people know about him now than 5 years ago. If 50% out of the people who know him because the memes, end up hearing his message, that’s a win.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Damn Robert Taylor homes got mentioned, lol.

Boule dude seemed to know some stuff. He got Umar about Vernon Jordan's wife. Umar gets away with generalized to the uninformed.

Its all a game breh.. Used to waste time until they figure out how to get rid of descendents of slaves..

As long as descendents of slaves are in this country, white people are consistently reminded of their hypocrisy and evil deeds..

So just like I asked the previous poster.. What happens when all the races are "diluted", and the guilt of american slavery is wiped clean from the conscious of humanity?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I respect you made your choice..

But do you have a plan B for when the gravy train runs out? Because the boule is only good for manipulating the black community..

Once their is no use for the black community, from white people, there would be no need for the black boule..

Honestly man. We need people pulling us across the finish line no matter what. The black elite aren’t even that elite. You can’t say this is a fully white supremacist society then say black elitists forget about their roots. They’re in the same system but are trying to make it work. Plus most of them are more pro black than people realize. They’re often the only ones IN A POSITION TO LOOK OUT.

 

[IVS]

Looks like a good...grabs headphones

 

[get these nets]

Decent conversation so far. The two men are counterparts to an extent, representing different segments of the community.

Self proclaimed Prince of Pan Afrikanism and the man who fashions himself as the public face of the Black American elite.

Should be a good convo.

 

[CobaltBlue]

To say the boule don’t want to be white is a form of cognitive dissonance bordering delusion

 

[invalid]

Umar had points.


This is the woman that they were debating about.

The first cousin to Valerie's mother, and graddaughter of Robert Robinson Taylor, is Ann Dibble Cook Jordan, who's own influence rivals that of Valerie herself. A graduate of Vassar and the University of Chicago, she became the Director of Social Services at the University of Chicago Medical School. She now serves as Trustee Emeritus for the University of Chicago and have sat on the following boards.

Revlon, Inc.
Johnson & Johnson
The University of Chicago
Citigroup Inc.
The Brookings Institution
Citigroup Finance Canada ULC
Allied Security Holdings LLC
Catalyst Inc.

Ann's first husband was Mercer Cook. He was the son of a prominent Washingtonian family. His great grandfather was John Hartwell Cook, a graduate of Oberlin College, and the first Dean of Howard Law School. His father, W. Mercer Cook, served as the Ambassador to Nigeria and Senegal.

Mercer Cook | The HistoryMakers




Ann is currently married to Vernon Jordan, who was apparently a small fry until he married into her family. Vernon was a close friend to President Bill Clinton, where he served as top advisor under Clinton's administration. And is suppesdly the one that took care of the Monica Lewinsky situation.

Jordan was the Director of the National Urban League and previously had ties to top Wall Street law firms and investment banking firm (Lazard). He's been the only black man invited on multiple occasions to the Bildeberg Conference. He has the reputation of being one of the most powerful men in Washington.

Here's an article written on Ann Dibble's influence:
THE WOMAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN

 

[Originalman]

Umar vs boule.

Need to be umar vs the people he done hustled money out of.

 

[invalid]

To say the boule don’t want to be white is a form of cognitive dissonance bordering delusion

I think it's an interesting question.

I think the black elite wants to be their own brand/version of black.

To the greater black community, that version of black ain't black, it's white adjacent.

 

[⠀X ⠀]

Umar is a waste of talent. Back when he first got popular, the blavity feminist crowd was praying on his downfall and calling him a scammer. He went and proved them right. Dude was messing with 40 year old strippers, taking money and not being accountable for it, on social media talking crazy... maybe he can bounce back, but I don’t know...

 

[xoxodede]

Umar had points.


This is the woman that they were debating about.

Her Dad:

Eugene H. Dibble, Jr. (1893-1968), M.D. served in the army during both World Wars and was commissioned Colonel in the Army Medical Corps from 1944-46. He was Manager of the U.S. Veterans Administration Hospital at Tuskegee, Alabama, from 1936-46; Medical Director of the John A. Andrew Memorial Hospital and served as a member of the Board of Trustees at Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee.
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I will say the Tuskegee Syphilis Study - really hurt his legacy and aided in the mistrust of doctors.

This is a really good read: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/3372911/Brandt_Racism.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

 

[CobaltBlue]

I think it's an interesting question.

I think the black elite wants to be their own brand/version of black.

To the greater black community, that version of black ain't black, it's white adjacent.

I think it’s delusional... It’s hard to say their “version” of being black is any different than a typical upper class/wealthy white. The only difference is skin tone. Their values are the same. They have the same rituals, customs, and favor the same institutions. Even style of dress and pattern of speech.
Name one thing the Boule has created that’s unique to them.

 

[get these nets]

Name one thing the Boule has created that’s unique to them.

Jack and Jill was created out of a unique necessity.

Whites had adult social clubs, golf clubs,boarding school /college alumni groups for adults, but I'm not sure that they created national clubs for their children to bond.