Union Member says most of his friends in the union voted for Republicans. Bothsiders, can you guess why?

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I read an article before the election about a (white) Trump voter in Wyoming that acknowledged Trump's proposed tariffs would hurt his business, but he doesn't care about that as long as Trump deports all illegal immigrants and bans abortion.


This is something that many "progressives" fail to realize when they think that Trumpers can be "won back" with "class struggle" rhetoric. Many White Trumpers would rather DIE or be completely BROKE as long as people they don't like (Black people and other minorities) are also suffering/disadvantaged.


They're not worried about the rich & powerful ripping them off. They're worried about "n*ggers, sp*cs, feminists and trannies" :hubie:
 

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Got a uncle who is a leader in the big union he been with for 20 to 25 years. Ironworkers. He's one of the only black people in his group. He told me most of the white people in his union were going to vote for Biden over Trump even after the awful debate. But once Biden dropped out and it was clear Harris was the nominee, they gathered around and he overheard 15 to 20 of them in a circle say "I guess we gotta go with Trump now."
 

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I read an article before the election about a (white) Trump voter in Wyoming that acknowledged Trump's proposed tariffs would hurt his business, but he doesn't care about that as long as Trump deports all illegal immigrants and bans abortion.


This is something that many "progressives" fail to realize when they think that Trumpers can be "won back" with "class struggle" rhetoric. Many White Trumpers would rather DIE or be completely BROKE as long as people they don't like (Black people and other minorities) are also suffering/disadvantaged.


They're not worried about the rich & powerful ripping them off. They're worried about "n*ggers, sp*cs, feminists and trannies" :hubie:
This is something I constantly wrestle with when people talk about "Democrats need better policies/messaging."

What policies did Trump put forth that were not roundly criticized by academics? A lot of folks are not interested in policy or Ralph Nader and Ross Perot types would be winning. They see this shyt and ignore it

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See people say they want original movies and no more sequels? Go to the movie theater and notice the seats are empty. Movies you never fukking heard of get Oscar noms and other awards. If it isn't making them mad or sad, basically not trying to appeal to their intellect but to their emotions, they don't give a shyt. A lot of people are simple and progressive thought is rarer than people actually realize.

When it comes to progressivism, which is the way forward, people have to not waste their time trying to guide "working class" and suburban moms (both code for white people) and have to drag them forward despite themselves. The real folks to talk to are non-voters who simply don't engage but can likely buy into a message. It's clear that you have to meet those people where they are at because a lot of white people who would have benefitted day 1 from Kamala would rather burn this bytch to the ground than cede any of it to anything other than white straight christian males. These are people who live in fukking all-white areas and never see anything else, are run by Republicans, and still think the problems they live with daily are from "others." You can not hitch your political hopes on trying to satisfy those stupid mothafukkas.
 

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People will give you a hundred different reasons why working class whites persistently vote against their own self interests. Economic anxiety, wokism, feeling left behind by liberal coastal elites etc. But if you talk to any white person whose real they'll tell you flat out and that many of them are just racist and misogynist. It mainly boils down to that. The moment after the Civil Rights act was passed and the Southern Strategy, Democrats became the 'black' party in the eyes of many white people. And its been a trans generational struggle to strip away our political power ever since.

Years ago I spoke to an older white guy at a Bernie rally once and he said his whole family were die hard Trump supporters. My naive mind tried come up with reasons why Trump would appeal to them. He just flat out said his family is full of racists and hates black people. However much you think racism plays a factor in white America's voting patterns, I guarantee you its much much much much worse than you can imagine. A lot of white people truly despise us and anyone who is non-white. Even the ones who you think are frendly hold shocking opinions of black people behind closed doors. It comes from a sense of racial superiority, entitlement and a deeply rooted insecurity when anything contradicts both.

This country is the way it is because most white people cannot accept the fact we're a mutiracial democracy and it may mean their tax dollars going towards healthcare and social programs that also help black people. I cannot understand this level of malice but a lot whites are in a state of severe mental delusion and illness. But they have been socially programmed for centuries to be this way.
Occam's Razor shyt. There's a million different competing issues but it all boils down to racism and ignorance

Incredible post btw
 

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Most union members vote Republican, so don't believe the BS the union heads tells you
 

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the fukked up part is, he'd have to ask Tariq for permission since he trademarked FBA :russ:
Thing is I would absolutely be in favor of a Black political organization that promotes Black interests. Could you imagine the lobbying power we could have off of sports and media stars alone. Politicians would absolutely have to listen to our concerns and vote along our interests.


I wouldn’t exclude Africans and West Indian peoples though, that’s silly. Especially since most families are mixed.


But if it’s just online role playing and larping what’s the point? To make others feel bad?
 

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People will give you a hundred different reasons why working class whites persistently vote against their own self interests. Economic anxiety, wokism, feeling left behind by liberal coastal elites etc. But if you talk to any white person whose real they'll tell you flat out and that many of them are just racist and misogynist. It mainly boils down to that. The moment after the Civil Rights act was passed and the Southern Strategy, Democrats became the 'black' party in the eyes of many white people. And its been a trans generational struggle to strip away our political power ever since.

Years ago I spoke to an older white guy at a Bernie rally once and he said his whole family were die hard Trump supporters. My naive mind tried come up with reasons why Trump would appeal to them. He just flat out said his family is full of racists and hates black people. However much you think racism plays a factor in white America's voting patterns, I guarantee you its much much much much worse than you can imagine. A lot of white people truly despise us and anyone who is non-white. Even the ones who you think are frendly hold shocking opinions of black people behind closed doors. It comes from a sense of racial superiority, entitlement and a deeply rooted insecurity when anything contradicts both.

This country is the way it is because most white people cannot accept the fact we're a mutiracial democracy and it may mean their tax dollars going towards healthcare and social programs that also help black people. I cannot understand this level of malice but a lot whites are in a state of severe mental delusion and illness. But they have been socially programmed for centuries to be this way.

Yet you have Black posters in here with poor reasoning and logic abilities who think White people actually care or value them..the same White people that bombed half the world in the last 50 years are somehow caring towards a Black minority they enslaved and then trapped in ghettos.
I can see them clasping at thin air and confused by all of this.

White people know that Trump is a disaster, but he can be a useful disaster that will sweep the country of Black people, Spics and non Whites in general..
White people's main concern is securing the country for White people only, so voting for Trump isn't considered voting against their best interests..

Trump is creating a brain drain where White Americans are desperately trying to find work in the UK and Europe..

Meanwhile the retard Bothsiders thinking they're on top of the world insulted so called "tethers" for several years, burning bridges with the perplexed Black world making new enemies while forgetting they're Black themselves and aren't exactly welcome in Europe and Asia..
Now the whole world thinks Black Americans hate Black people from foreign lands.
I recall one thread where passport bros were celebrating that with an American accent and passport they get better treatment than continental Africans in Europe and Asia..those days are over koons.
A US passport and accent is now as welcome in the world as a Nigerian or Indian one
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Thing is I would absolutely be in favor of a Black political organization that promotes Black interests. Could you imagine the lobbying power we could have off of sports and media stars alone. Politicians would absolutely have to listen to our concerns and vote along our interests.


I wouldn’t exclude Africans and West Indian peoples though, that’s silly. Especially since most families are mixed.


But if it’s just online role playing and larping what’s the point? To make others feel bad?

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Props to you for having the guts to come in and debate when the room wasn't gonna be favorable to you. Most bothsiders be ducking these threads like Anthony Edwards ducks his baby mamas.

People have lives and not on here 24-7.

Neely Fuller taught us to watch bothsides, because the White Supremacist will position themselves on bothsides of the argument and at the end of the argument, the only people confused and scattered are the Black people and we are arguing with each other.

The video proves Neely Fuller right because the White Man said his Democratic White people left the Democrats and turned Republicans and then he said then the Republicans are racist, so you just don't turn into a White Supremacist over night lol; the white people who switched from Democrats to Republicans were White Supremacist when they were Democrats lol.




Nobody told them both sides are the same? :dahell:

 
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