i know. also, they felt comfortable carrying 8 bp arms and a short bench b/c they could use deGrom to ph. 10 hits. great hitting pitcher. so good, he might get a PH spot before the backup catcher...
DH!
Universal DH - Yay or Nay?
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DH!
that'd be cool, but the traditionalists would hate that even more. "Durrr, guys are going to get more at bats than the greats did, blah blah bah" meanwhile it will probably amount to like 20 more ab's
the pitchers who wear their jackets while running the bases
It keeps their arm warm though.
La Russa used to do that all the time.
I actually liked it. In concept, it makes sense, giving the 2-4 hitters a better chance to drive in more runners.
i understand the thought process, but like i said, the fact the mets only did it (and probably will continue to do it) with one guy leads me to believe they think he's a good hitter. he's a slightly better than most shytty pitchers hitter.
the next guy
Superstar
Having a pitcher bat hurts the offense. This is undeniable.
TommyHilltrigga
Here comes THE BOOM!
Yay for DH....lol pitchers needa stick to picthin
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
They're supposed to move the runners up!
The mutherfuccin' ROYALS almost won the title with small ball because they did "utilize it nearly enough".
Matter of fact, if they would've dropped bunt with Alex Gordon on 3rd it would have been the most exciting bunt of all time!
You are way off base (pi).
yseJ
Empire strikes back
the argument is not that 'some pitchers can hit'. its that some pitchers can hit much better than other pitchers. therefore youre creating a slight advantage based on inherent talent, and not by using a guy who plays no defense.
if you want to put a pitcher on the mound who sucks at hitting like ben sheets, you have to accept he'll cripple your offense. a pitcher who can hit better than crap gives an NL team an advantage that cant be easily and routinely bought like DH, a 'position' that utilizes only one skillset of a baseball player
besides football, in pretty much every team sport there is, everyone who plays offense has to play defense too and vice versa. 1-8 lineup is better than a DH.
as a guy who loves defense way more than offense in any sport there is, DH is one of the biggest jokes there is to me. and Im so far away from a 'traditionalist' its not even funny
yseJ
Empire strikes back
and ? why does offense have to be > defense ? Im sick of that mentality in every fukking sport.
the next guy
Superstar
Because people want to see 3 run homers that's why. Not guys who can't hold a bat properly ground out and waste an at bat.
Spaceman Piff
Superstar
how much of a pitcher's hitting ability really factors into who's on the mound? how much of a difference is there between the best hitting pitcher and the worst hitting pitcher? and even then, they only play in ~30 games a year. so every 5 days, they're supposed to perform a skill they probably haven't practiced since high school. it's not good defense, it's bad offense. do you really enjoy watching a pitcher hit? that at-bat can't possibly be enjoyable unless you're rooting for the other team.
goalies don't play both ways. they're both specialized positions. there's nothing wrong with it.
a good chunk of good defense is good pitching. let the pitchers do what they're paid to do.
disclaimer: i'm a yankee fan
guys make $5 million dollars to come out of the bullpen and pitch to one hitter these days. this "players must play on offense and defense" stuff is horseshyt.
oh, the Royals won on small ball... speed and defense and blah blah. i can cite a small percentage of teams who won on this and that too. Not to mention, those Royals? it took em 73 years and they're almost certainly not going back to the world series. it was a fun run, now fade back into obscurity with your faggy bunting.
it wasn't even strictly b/c of bunting. fukk bunting. if at any point in any game you're happy to see your hitter square up to bunt, you are one boring motherfukker. i mean, down 1, runner on first in the 9th of a playoff game? ... shyt, even there i'd rather my guy swing away to be honest, but go ahead and bunt. just bunting a pitcher to move a guy up a bag b/c the pitcher himself fukkin looks like a retarded 8 year old girl when he actually swings is stupid and needs to be abolished.
oh, the Royals won on small ball... speed and defense and blah blah. i can cite a small percentage of teams who won on this and that too. Not to mention, those Royals? it took em 73 years and they're almost certainly not going back to the world series. it was a fun run, now fade back into obscurity with your faggy bunting.
it wasn't even strictly b/c of bunting. fukk bunting. if at any point in any game you're happy to see your hitter square up to bunt, you are one boring motherfukker. i mean, down 1, runner on first in the 9th of a playoff game? ... shyt, even there i'd rather my guy swing away to be honest, but go ahead and bunt. just bunting a pitcher to move a guy up a bag b/c the pitcher himself fukkin looks like a retarded 8 year old girl when he actually swings is stupid and needs to be abolished.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
typical american mentality. moar scoring is king, fukk scoring