Unless the Cavs get a legit 4/5, They will NOT win a ship

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In 2010 i agree but now?

Hell no


Bosh is worlds better defensively than Love :dead:

Opponents are shooting 57.1 percent on those shots at the rim defended by Love, the highest mark in the league by any defender who defends at least six shots at the rim per game. Basically Love is getting into position to defend shots as often as anyone in the league; he's just generating extremely poor results.

If you don't have a shotblocker at the 5 to pair him with, you're going to have a conga line going to the rim. If they could pull off a trade for a defensive 5 like DeAndre Jordan to go with Love, then yeah it would be a dope move, but right now Varejao is the only center the Cavs have and he's not a great shot blocker.



Wade when healthy, however rare that happened last year was still better than Kyrie on the defensive end. Not saying Kyrie doesn't have the ability to defend, just that he hasn't done it yet.
 

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Wade and Bosh together are still better than Kyrie and Love.
Love and Kyrie never played together so how would you know?

All I know is Kyrie is better then Wade right now, offensively and defensively.

Love and Bosh cancel each other out because Love > Bosh offensively and on the boards but Bosh > Love defensively.
 

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The Heat did it because it's Florida and they could convince people to take less money because there's no state income tax in FL on top of the weather. They aren't going to have that working in their favor in Ohio, so trying to play the FA market and getting old vets to take less money may not work.

If they keep what they have now and try to develop those players, next season they'd have around $8-10 million to play with on the FA market. If they're going to trade anyone, they should really try to move Waiters/Thompson and get back a center like Horford.
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Them vets will bandwaggon harder than :heh:.......This man just amplified his legacy x 10.

Vets gnna be like :feedme:. Ray Allen and Mike already in talks. And if Wiggins is as good alot of people believe he will be,eventually they will have to pay him too and end up paying that luxury tax(if he stays). Either pay it now or pay it later:yeshrug:
 

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:pachaha:

Them vets will bandwaggon harder than :heh:.......This man just amplified his legacy x 10.

Vets gnna be like :feedme:. Ray Allen and Mike already in talks. And if Wiggins is as good alot of people believe he will be,eventually they will have to pay him too and end up paying that luxury tax(if he stays). Either pay it now or later:yeshrug:


LeBron couldn't get free agents to play in Cleveland when he was there before, getting some vet minimum dudes doesn't mean much.

You pay later, above average production on rookie contracts > * , it also gives you flexibility long term, you got a dude that could be giving them 15ppg and very good defense this year on what amounts to the MLE.
 

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Also, i think its pretty obvious what Bron would prefer. If he truly preferred Wiggins to stay he would've mentioned him in his letter. He was only your teams #1 pick in last years draft. You think he would directly want to take him under his wing .
 

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Can't wait for all the sub 40% shooting days from the Bennett,Waiter,Wiggins trio these folks will still keep talking about depth tho.
 
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Love and Kyrie never played together so how would you know?
Because I'm using common sense.
All I know is Kyrie is better then Wade right now, offensively and defensively.
That's debatable.
Love and Bosh cancel each other out because Love > Bosh offensively and on the boards but Bosh > Love defensively.
Now you're changing the goal posts. This conversation was built on their ability as defenders. Stop tryna twist this.




There is nothing Erik Spoelstra has praised more passionately this season that Chris Bosh’s defense –-- “Chris is an elite defender and is proving it every single night” --– and consider this: No starting center in the league allows fewer points per possession against the player he’s guarding (factoring in shots and turnovers) than Bosh. Opponents are shooting 37.7 percent against Bosh, lower than against Dwight Howard (38.3) and Joakim Noah (39.9), according to synergysports.com.


Bosh more than makes up for whatever you think Kyrie has over Wade on the defensive end and surpasses it, quite comfortably.
 

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LeBron couldn't get free agents to play in Cleveland when he was there before, getting some vet minimum dudes doesn't mean much.

You pay later, above average production on rookie contracts > * , it also gives you flexibility long term, you got a dude that could be giving them 15ppg and very good defense this year on what amounts to the MLE.
Lebron is a champion now , and is lot more mature than he was in Cleveland. He gained alot of players respect last few years with his stances against the owners, Donald Sterling and this free agency cemented it. Ray Allen was disgusted with bron shucking and jiving on the sideline in Cleveland. Now he's :feedme:
More will follow.
 

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I want the Cavs to make a move. But in the finals when Tim is killing Love on defense & TP is giving the cavs problems on defense it won't look good. Bron can only do so much.
 

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Lebron is a champion now , and is lot more mature than he was in Cleveland. He gained alot of players respect last few years with his stances against the owners, Donald Sterling and this free agency cemented it. Ray Allen was disgusted with bron shucking and jiving on the sideline in Cleveland. Now he's :feedme:
More will follow.


They're not getting a center or shooting guard if they trade for Love, it's really that simple. They trade for Love and they will have massive holes in their roster, unless they can find a 3rd team to help facilitate it so they don't have to give up 3 players for him.
 
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