UPDATE: It’s Over; Embiid’s set to claim his first-ever MVP

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AI took that 76ers team to the FINALS against a juggernaut Lakers team and spit in their eye even though he realistically had no hope of winning that series.


Joel to the ECF does NOT put him above what A.I. accomplished. He’s got to get them to the Finals as a qualifier to be above and beyond A.I.
nikka played in a nothing East man I don’t want to hear that lol. I’m not even talking team success, although I don’t think there should be that much of a difference in perception between a highly contested ECF against the Bucks, for example, and a Finals that was over after game 1
 

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only players to average more points in a season since the merger are jordan, kobe, and harden. likely going to be the 3rd season (dantley, jordan) since the merger of 10+ fg and ft's per game.
 

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Exactly. nikkas bytched and moaned for 2-3 years cause Jokic had MVP's and no chip. I need that same energy for Joel.
nikkas been coming at his neck for years for not reaching the ECF yet already :dwillhuh:
 
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This year's MVP conversation has been nothing but retarded. Not sure who to blame more between NBA writers and Twitter/Coli militants (nah I'm sure it's the latter :pachaha:)

Emblid, Jokic and Giannis all have strong cases for MVP this season.
Almost every season the MVP conversation is retarded.

It's all about who folks want to win (and who they don't want to win) rather than just acknowledging who deserves to win.
Jokic needs the same smoke too. :ld:
Denver's support cast has been diluted with injuries over the last two postseasons. The last time they were healthy they went to the Conference Finals. I mean, all superstars should be held to the same standards, in general, but would any star player be expected to win with sidekicks of Murray and MPJ?

Let's be honest here, if Giannis was on the Nuggets in place of Jokic, would y'all have the same energy in wanting to hold him accountable?

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Almost every season the MVP conversation is retarded.

It's all about who folks want to win (and who they don't want to win) rather than just acknowledging who deserves to win.

Denver's support cast has been diluted with injuries over the last two postseasons. The last time they were healthy they went to the Conference Finals. I mean, all superstars should be held to the same standards, in general, but would any star player be expected to win with sidekicks of Murray and MPJ?

Let's be honest here, if Giannis was on the Nuggets in place of Jokic, would y'all have the same energy in wanting to hold him accountable?

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Okay, I'll bite. Like you said, let's be honest. The difference between Jrue and Khris as side kicks over Murray and MPJ is one group had their leader lead them to a ring. We can argue health if you'd like, but I thought the point was talent. Even if we bring up health though, Middleton isn't exactly an iron man. :patrice:




If your question is "would Giannis be held to the same standard Jokic is for not winning a ring after almost 10 years in the league" the answer would most certainly be a resounding yes seeing as how that is literally exactly what happened in Milwaukee. Nobody was trying to insinuate Jrue and Khris was so much better than Murray and MPJ before the ring. And yeah them nikkas be hurt but like I said so does Middleton
 
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