URL/SMACK PRESENTS O-RED VS AVE

[MicIsGod]

Wordplay and he says a lot of slick shyt. Ave has a pen too. Do you need me to post bars

You're the only person whose gonna sit here and really tell me ave isn't a punchline rapper. Nitty has wordplay too but he's a punchline rapper. You hear the same bars I do you just playin dumb. A pen is someone like o red and chilla to a greater extent. What ave does is a lot different.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You're the only person whose gonna sit here and really tell me ave isn't a punchline rapper. Nitty has wordplay too but he's a punchline rapper. You hear the same bars I do you just playin dumb.

I NEVER SAID THAT AVE ISNT A PUNCHLINE RAPPER I said that he's not JUST a punchline rapper

 

[MicIsGod]

I NEVER SAID THAT AVE ISNT A PUNCHLINE RAPPER I said that he's not JUST a punchline rapper

YES HE IS. Lol he don't give you real talk, he rarely schemes if at all, not a performer, not really aggressive. 4 bar setup usually and then a punch. You know what that is? A punchline rapper. Lol

 

[Reptile]

Wordplay and he says a lot of slick shyt. Ave has a pen too. Do you need me to post bars

Ave doesn't have a pen bro stop..... How does he have a pen???

 

[Ronnie Lott]

YES HE IS. Lol he don't give you real talk, he rarely schemes if at all, not a performer, not really aggressive. 4 bar setup usually and then a punch. You know
what that is? A punchline rapper. Lol

Did you not see how Ave was talkin to Chess

How he was literally puttin hands on him. Pointin on his chest. The swim move he did over Chess when he said "all you'll see is a arm swing over Roc like skip to my Lou" how can you say that wasn't performance

Ave used the entire stage vs Chess

 

[MicIsGod]

Did you not see how Ave was talkin to Chess

How he was literally puttin hands on him. Pointin on his chest. The swim move he did over Chess when he said "all you'll see is a arm swing over Roc like skip to my Lou" how can you say that wasn't performance

Ave used the entire stage vs Chess

So ave pushes chess around and now he's a performer. He was talkin to chess you got it bruh do your thing

 

[Ronnie Lott]

So ave pushes chess around and now he's a performer. He was talkin to chess you got it bruh do your thing

I said Ave was showing aggression based on him pushing Chess around. Why are you twisting my words Are you trolling me

I said Ave showed performance when he did the swim move/Skip to my Lou bar

 

[JuvenileHell]

lol how is Ave not a performer and he rocked the NOME stage like he's used to being there. That Skip to my Lou shyt was crazy

 

[dappadonna]

Gave it to Ave

I don't like this O-red

 

[oO J Smooth Oo]

2-1 Ave (1&3, 2s debatable) Red was hard to listen to for the most part

he always is, he sounds like somebody ran past and stood on his big toe

 

[MicIsGod]

lol how is Ave not a performer and he rocked the NOME stage like he's used to being there. That Skip to my Lou shyt was crazy

Do y'all know what a performer is they just loved ave and his punches were hittin crazy. For the most part ave sits in one spot and pointshow can you watch someone like surf on the stage and call ave a performer

 

[Lavish]

Debating with a bunch if nikkas who are just excited to see o red back is pointless.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Bar for bar Red beat Ave no debate.

If it's a bunch of people debating, how is it no debate?!

I think from either side it's kinda silly to declare someone won "clearly" it's fair how I see people judging it. I have several battles where the same people overlooking stumbles slips and chokes for red was killing another battle rapper for the exact same slip ups.

For me you can still win with a few slip ups, if you are that much better than your opponent i.e verb vs jimz, and if your opponent just doest come with anything special. This wasn't the case for ave, he had some shyt every round.

For me it comes down to the 1st, Ave had a fire 1st with about only 1 bar I wasn't feeling. Red started very slow, began warming up, but about a quarter of his round was really throw away. And a few of his bars just wasn't that good. Not to mention a moment in the 1st where red had a long pause you can kind of argue he was getting his shyt back, slight choke.

Yea it's nitpicking, but you have to nitpick to determine winners in close battles like this. Ave 1st rd was better imo, that gives him the win 2-1

 

[DontEemTry]

That's a Biggie reference no?

That's Frank White

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

You don't have to do much performing on a Born Legacy stage, its too damn crowded

but to act like Ave wasn't performing when he battled Chess is a goddamn lie