US Army develops Vaccine that protects against SARS including COVID and its Variants

[42 Monks]

No, the VA gives disability to veterans who they deem have a disability. There’s no established link between those disability issues and anthrax vaccine. From the article you linked, Congress investigated a number of issues around the program, mainly was it necessary because the soldiers had a low likelihood of contracting anthrax, plus there were claims of adverse health effects from the vaccine which weren’t proven or confirmed.

I didn't link an article, I linked the actual committee report which came out the same year those complaints took off - 20 years ago. To show that particular ordeal has been formally acknowledged and has been ongoing for years.

The road for support from that point until now is a long one. Whether you want to actually follow up and understand that isn't something I can make you do.

However, I'm sure you've recognized that the 3 guys mentioned by someone else here obviously didn't lead that charge all by themselves. That much is certain.

You're treating this like an anti-vaccine take and I want to emphasize that this ordeal and many like it are a veterans affairs/DoD disclosure one. The idea that the military would be forward and transparent with injuries and harmful events that they themselves caused is not one that's gonna take you far in any context.

The only thing to 'trust' on that end, is the settlement - in this case is the avenue to file. Which literally exists

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I didn't link an article, I linked the actual committee report which came out the same year those complaints took off - 20 years ago. To show that particular ordeal has been formally acknowledged and has been ongoing for years.

The road for support from that point until now is a long one. Whether you want to actually follow up and understand that isn't something I can make you do.

However, I'm sure you've recognized that the 3 guys mentioned by someone else here obviously didn't lead that charge all by themselves. That much is certain.

You're treating this like an anti-vaccine take and I want to emphasize that this ordeal and many like it are a veterans affairs/DoD disclosure one. The idea that the military would be forward and transparent with injuries and harmful events that they themselves caused is not one that's gonna take you far in any context.

The only thing to 'trust' on that end, is the settlement - in this case is the avenue to file. Which literally exists

No I merely asked you was there any evidentiary linkage to these health problems and anthrax vaccines on scientific/medical literature and you couldn’t produce any.

You don’t seem to understand that science is reproducible and an anthrax vaccine will act the same in clinical trials in academic and research settings as it does in the military.

There has been no clinical studies I’ve seen that indicate that anthrax vaccine had severe or lasting health effects.

You’re talking about Gulf war syndrome and many veterans that have it attribute it to the anthrax vaccine but there isn’t any substantive evidence of that. The most commonly-held theory as to the cause of GWS is that these troops were exposed to sarin and other chemical munitions in Iraq, as the symptoms are consistent with it.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

As someone who has covid right now.... where were yall 3 days ago



Cant see my fam for xmas, cant chill with NYE.... damn army yall late

This where we at in my fam. My daughter and child’s mother got it. Had to tell my parents they can’t come down this year. Luckily, it seems they’ve gotten over it, but it hasn’t been 10 days yet so we not taking any chances. I’ve got a bad cold, but after multiple days of testing, I’m still coming back negative. My parents sad as hell they can’t see my little girl. Had to protect my pop. He’s like, i don’t care if I get it, I want to see my granddaughter. Gotta protect him from himself

 

[David_TheMan]

Army is the only group that srauenced the virus.

Theg should share the isolated vitus with the rest of the world, but it sounds like bulkshyt do a dem admin can end the hoax because their party is a out to be destroyed.

 

[Oatmeal]

So are we getting the Captain America or Universal Soldier

 

[Seoul Gleou]

same nikkas who'll go to mcdonalds and eat hormone blasted beef, sip on hyper sugarized drinks, and smoke a cocaine pack will tell you they dont want a vax cause they dont trust big pharma

 

[HTXBreh]

No I merely asked you was there any evidentiary linkage to these health problems and anthrax vaccines on scientific/medical literature and you couldn’t produce any.

You don’t seem to understand that science is reproducible and an anthrax vaccine will act the same in clinical trials in academic and research settings as it does in the military.

There has been no clinical studies I’ve seen that indicate that anthrax vaccine had severe or lasting health effects.

You’re talking about Gulf war syndrome and many veterans that have it attribute it to the anthrax vaccine but there isn’t any substantive evidence of that. The most commonly-held theory as to the cause of GWS is that these troops were exposed to sarin and other chemical munitions in Iraq, as the symptoms are consistent with it.

I already have stated I had a shipmate who became paralyzed and later died from the anthrax vaccine. He didn't even get yo deploy

 

[42 Monks]

No I merely asked you was there any evidentiary linkage to these health problems and anthrax vaccines on scientific/medical literature and you couldn’t produce any.

You don’t seem to understand that science is reproducible and an anthrax vaccine will act the same in clinical trials in academic and research settings as it does in the military.

There has been no clinical studies I’ve seen that indicate that anthrax vaccine had severe or lasting health effects.

You’re talking about Gulf war syndrome and many veterans that have it attribute it to the anthrax vaccine but there isn’t any substantive evidence of that. The most commonly-held theory as to the cause of GWS is that these troops were exposed to sarin and other chemical munitions in Iraq, as the symptoms are consistent with it.

its wild how you want to 'do ya googles' now you said those guys were talking out their ass - you've now seen that those guys weren't just rambling bullshyt as that issue. this other tangent is you not wanting to be wrong on the internet. its not just a hearsay issue, its a long back and forth that's going to persist. formal acknowledgement of that is more than enough to accept that its more than rumors/urban legends.

also, 'gulf war syndrome' is the label attributed to dozens of injuries/hardships and its left purposefully broad because it applies to not just our own soldiers, but soldiers in the coalition as well as local nationals. that title is intended to be a buffer to protect many different parties internationally. like i said before, this is a VA/DoD disclosure thing, not a science issue. and you're not getting a full disclosure of a lot of these types of details until the stickers come off.

the fact remains though, and again i gotta emphasize this because it reallllllllly seems you keep ignoring it as its kinda the most important thing, you can still get what you're owed for it under that label despite the absence of full transparency.

 

[ColdSlither]

We sure this is legit, yeah? No other (non-news-aggregator) news outlet has touched this. How does the military create a vaccine that no one talks/cares about? At the least, there aren't people in science interested or the vax people don't have PR people to get the word out? Something smells bad in Denmark

The Hill and Fox News have it on their sites.

Army to announce vaccine that protects against an array of COVID-19 variants

Army develops COVID-19 vaccine that may provide protection against all variants

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

its wild how you want to 'do ya googles' now you said those guys were talking out their ass - you've now seen that those guys weren't just rambling bullshyt as that issue. this other tangent is you not wanting to be wrong on the internet. its not just a hearsay issue, its a long back and forth that's going to persist. formal acknowledgement of that is more than enough to accept that its more than rumors/urban legends.

also, 'gulf war syndrome' is the label attributed to dozens of injuries/hardships and its left purposefully broad because it applies to not just our own soldiers, but soldiers in the coalition as well as local nationals. that title is intended to be a buffer to protect many different parties internationally. like i said before, this is a VA/DoD disclosure thing, not a science issue. and you're not getting a full disclosure of a lot of these types of details until the stickers come off.

the fact remains though, and again i gotta emphasize this because it reallllllllly seems you keep ignoring it as its kinda the most important thing, you can still get what you're owed for it under that label despite the absence of full transparency.

Nobody said anyone was talking out of their ass. I said I haven’t seen any scientific/medical literature linking the anthrax vaccine to severe health and problems. I asked you to produce any and you failed to do so. You posted a congressional investigative report about the efficacy and necessity of anthrax vaccines for military personnel, and the claims of anthrax vaccine causing Gulf war syndrome.

You just juelzed and said absolutely nothing for several paragraphs and posts and still have yet to produce any scientific data about anthrax vaccines causing GWS syndrome.

And furthermore, I “did mah googles” like you asked and the FDA did a large scale clinical study on anthrax vaccines in 2005 and determined they were safe. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/16/AR2006101601084.html

Go ahead and juelz to yourself on some “the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence” shyt some more.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I already have stated I had a shipmate who became paralyzed and later died from the anthrax vaccine. He didn't even get yo deploy

Link?

 

[HTXBreh]

Link?

Man this wasnt on the news this was back in 07.Yall generation weird

 

[Sterling Archer]

As someone who has covid right now.... where were yall 3 days ago



Cant see my fam for xmas, cant chill with NYE.... damn army yall late

Were you wearing your mask and social distancing diligently?

 

[Paper Boi]

give me that super soldier serum

 

[42 Monks]

Nobody said anyone was talking out of their ass. I said I haven’t seen any scientific/medical literature linking the anthrax vaccine to severe health and problems. I asked you to produce any and you failed to do so. You posted a congressional investigative report about the efficacy and necessity of anthrax vaccines for military personnel, and the claims of anthrax vaccine causing Gulf war syndrome.

You just juelzed and said absolutely nothing for several paragraphs and posts and still have yet to produce any scientific data about anthrax vaccines causing GWS syndrome.

And furthermore, I “did mah googles” like you asked and the FDA did a large scale clinical study on anthrax vaccines in 2005 and determined they were safe.

Go ahead and juelz to yourself on some “the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence” shyt some more.

no, you went on a whole tangent because others corrected this:

lol assuming this isn’t more like you know 3 people in the army who happened to have a stroke, an aneurysm and brain cancer and your dumb ass illogically attributes it to vaccines that millions of people take.

and like I said at the start, its been recognized upfront and guys can thankfully get something these days. it was not always the case.

so its not much to say considering, again, you can claim and collect. i know you're not military but like... you're asking for full transparency and disclosure from the DoD over something they caused. obviously that's not going to happen. and fortunately transparency isn't required for treatment and what's owed.

you're acting like these settlements and the road to filing doesn't actually exist. you can go to any VA, take a number, check the appropriate box, and get started as long as you play their game (and not try to reach additional attribution outside of what's already documented). i hope you don't think you can just sit down as a servicemember and sue the military. you seem to be making this up as you go

may as well argue VA of all institutions is on point, upfront, and appreciated for seeking out all potentially harmed individuals trying to defend the DoD's integrity is some shyt I never thought I'd see on this site