US soccer fires Klansmen

William F. Russell

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You guys lack understanding if you think a national federation's objective failings is due to lack of talent.

Talent doesn't matter, because there's nothing you can do about not having great players you can call up.


what does matter is being a terrible manager making consistently bad tactical judgement.

If your team is medicore, it's your job as a MANAGER to make them the best medicore team they can possibly, with the RIGHT tactics.

The UMSNT are not expected by anyone, not even Sunil, to win a world cup. The USMNT are judged by their expectations to meet goals they've met before.


He's not being fired because the USMNT is trash or even because they lost the first 2 matches of the qualifying rounds, but because of the MANNER in which they lost.




And did you just mention Mexico and Ecuador? :comeon:


The USMNT and Mexico go back to back with each other. Mexico has been on the same level of us this entire century.


Mexico aren't CONMEBOL level, breh.


I'm asking again, do you guys actually pay attention to soccer?


1. The team sucks ass. Period.

2. I already called out Klinsmann. Dude had horrible tactics and he made questionable call-ups. But, again, you can't draw water from a stone.

3. Mexico > US

4. Ecuador > US
 

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Which is? Let me guess it's "the best athletes in the country don't play theory"

Well that's part of it, but its also just a complete culture shift here. Kids don't play it when they're young and we do not have the academy system that grooms potential talent like the best soccer countries have.

Our skill level and knowledge of the game is significantly lower than other countries.
 

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1. The team sucks ass. Period.

2. I already called out Klinsmann. Dude had horrible tactics and he made questionable call-ups. But, again, you can't draw water from a stone.

3. Mexico > US

4. Ecuador > US

Since 2000 USA is 13–7–5 against Mexico. That includes winning the biggest game these teams have every played agains each other. The 2002 World Cup knockout match where the USA won 2-0.

USA is 4-5-5 agains Ecuador all time. And since 2000 the USA is 4-1-2 against them.
 

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Since 2000 USA is 13–7–5 against Mexico. That includes winning the biggest game these teams have every played agains each other. The 2002 World Cup knockout match where the USA won 2-0.

USA is 4-5-5 agains Ecuador all time. And since 2000 the USA is 4-1-2 against them.

Give me the stats for the last 5-10 years against both teams.
 

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1. The team sucks ass. Period.

2. I already called out Klinsmann. Dude had horrible tactics and he made questionable call-ups. But, again, you can't draw water from a stone.

3. Mexico > US

4. Ecuador > US

You do know you can still get results without have the greatest players on earth, right?




Since 2000 USA is 13–7–5 against Mexico. That includes winning the biggest game these teams have every played agains each other. The 2002 World Cup knockout match where the USA won 2-0.

USA is 4-5-5 agains Ecuador all time. And since 2000 the USA is 4-1-2 against them.


These dudes don't know shyt, breh. I don't know where they get this impression from. :heh:


Putting Mexico and Ecuador on the same level of Brazil.


Give me the stats for the last 5-10 years against both teams.


You made the claim that Mexico is better than the USMNT.


How about you do your research?
 

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The USMNT have the most promising talent pool since... whenever, and Jurgen wasn't capable of making it work just even a little bit.


in previous world cups and other competitions, the US has fared better with less amazing prospects than what we have now...
 

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The USMNT have the most promising talent pool since... whenever, and Jurgen wasn't capable of making it work just even a little bit.


in previous world cups and other competitions, the US has fared better with less amazing prospects than what we have now...
doesnt matter how good talent pool is as long as it has good head coaching and system in place then only it will succeed. Guys like klinsman are not good coaches but he was a legend of a player( spurs legend) But the MLS needs to fix it academy problem. You knows it bad when non american team in vancouver whitecaps has the best academy in the league.
 

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He's not completely incorrect.

Klinsman was an underwhelming coach that got exposed time and time again for his shytty tactics and personnel decisions. But at the same time, that USMNT squad simply CANNOT compete at the level of, say, Brazil, Ecuador or Mexico. There's a fairly noticeable lack of talent in that squad.


USA cannot compete with Mexico? The same Mexico that they are always going back and forth with? Ecuador? The same Ecuador they beat in the Copa America a few months ago?


:laff: Do you even watch the games?
 

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USA cannot compete with Mexico? The same Mexico that they are always going back and forth with? Ecuador? The same Ecuador they beat in the Copa America a few months ago?


:laff: Do you even watch the games?
Yo stop gassing up USMNT yall havent done shyt since that confederation cup(prob the most flukest run) You know its bad when you got guys like bradley and altidore still starting for you squad.
 
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