Utah found a brilliantly effective solution for homelessness

[EndDomination]

Handicapped, Brain damaged and traumatized should NOT be grouped socially (in context or in practice) with addicts...especially considering:

I cant support that.

Utah chose to solve its homelessness nuisance by ignoring its drug and mental health problems. Thats irresponsible.

They aren't ignoring the drug and mental health problems at all, on he contrary they may be helping improve them. They would likely become more functioning, especially if the government can get them into mandatory work programs, that way they lose the aimlessness that often worsens drug habits. And you can keep track of a person with mental health issue's progress if they are sedentary. Make sure they're taking their medicine and going to treatment as they should.
Utah is solving a problem that has been incredibly easy to solve for decades. There are far more houses than people in the United States.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Your analogy doesn't work here.

Sometimes homlessness is the route cause of the disease. Homlessness leads to addiction and joblessness.

You get people a stable home, shower, food, training, and they have a much better chance of beating addiction. Leave them on the streets and tell them to stop smoking crack, and they will keep smoking.

i hear you, fair pount

 

[tmonster]

This is pure government overreach. I am completely disgusted. This is anti freedum and anti individual.

Homeless people need to be on the street begging for $2. It encourages entrepreneurship and pulling themselves up from their bootstraps. First they need to find their own boots though.

However hardworking corporations do deserve billions in subsidies they are people after all friends.

 

[rapbeats]

Handicapped, Brain damaged and traumatized should NOT be grouped socially (in context or in practice) with addicts...especially considering:

I cant support that.

Utah chose to solve its homelessness nuisance by ignoring its drug and mental health problems. Thats irresponsible.

who said they ignored it? they didnt say they would not provide those folks with help/services. they said EVEN if they didnt take them up on said services and got better. they could still live in those homes. why? because its cheapa to keep her.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

man, shut the fukk up

Right? I had rally bad substance abuse issues almost 10 years ago and came out strong as a contributing member to society. We aren't all trash. It doesn't dictate my life, I don't spend my time going to meetings, I'm not a miserable burn out or a dry drunk. A lot of people that are addicts recover, fully, and live very happy and meaningful lives. It's fukked up sometimes to read posts like "Just let them die and kill themselves", but I mean I know that's how it goes for a lot of people. I read that stuff all over the place. Thinking about or dealing with that past is actually such a very small part of my life, but comments like that are some of the few things that get me heated sometimes.

Whether or not what Utah is doing or not is perfect, it won't ever take off because some people just don't like anything that has to do with the government helping people, under any circumstances, period. No matter how fukking benign it is, or what type of positive side-effects or long term benefits might come with it.

 

[re'up]

I'm 8 years sober and clean myself….but we are the minority, I think like 95% fail, that doesn't mean they should just die though. Moving on, I read about this Utah solution a year ago or so, and was telling everyone about it, I've said the same shyt for years…build facilities to house these people, rather then leaving them in the streets, to live in trash and bizarre homeless people conflicts, the downtown section of San Diego is the most homeless populated, and a large percentage of all the violence is from the homeless on homeless disputes. I am of the opinion that death is preferable to being homeless though, I'm talking like living amongst the trash and filth on the street.

lol it is brilliant and effective, it's just ironic we call it that, when it's such a simple fukking solution.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

this is a very socialist program which robs homeless people of the freedom of achieving homeness on their own
this program is anti-freedom

Do you realize that once a person is homeless, there's a strong chance that they are just fukked? And there's nothing they can do about it? I realize there are homeless people that can panhandle and make decent money, and/or are mentally fit.

But if you have a person that's homes and bipolar, or autistic, or has health issues...who the fukk is going to hire these people? You need a job to afford a home. To get a job you usually need to be working or have worked pretty recently. It's like prison. Homelessness is an institution that is a tough cycle to get out of once you get into that situation. Can people do it? Of course. Would it be ideal to get out of it without needing help? Yes. But that's not realistic for everyone.

I just don't get the idea that if someone gets any form of help that they didn't work hard. Like if a homeless person gets a few months of help and they get a job and a place to live, it all of a sudden means that they didn't work for it. That's bullshyt. I'm not trying to put up a straw-man, because I don't know if you believe that or not, but a lot of people do. Again, I'm not saying you're in this pack but a LOT of hardcore libertarians I know give the,selves way too much credit in terms of how much their life accomplishments have been earned by themselves alone. They'll talk about how they did this or that, and completely ignore a lot of help that they got along the way from family, friends, state government, federal government, etc. It's like they just don't see it.

Everyone in life can use a hand now and then. I know I'm saying some milquetoast shyt that's not of much real substance, and you can't legislate the word "reasonable" but do you believe there's ever a "reasonable" amount of help that should be afforded to people at any point during their life? Anyone can hit a patch of awful luck, and ending up homeless is way easier than most people think it is. No one homeless planned for that shyt. Maybe made some bad life decisions, or maybe they didn't. I work hard, I'm for hard work, and I get annoyed when uncle sam takes a cut from my paycheck. But if I'm gonna pay I'd rather my money go towards helping individuals in our society than a lot of other bullshyt that it goes to.

 

[tmonster]

Do you realize that once a person is homeless, there's a strong chance that they are just fukked? And there's nothing they can do about it?

they can get a job and and join the American dream, and stop waiting for government handouts
the gov should be small enough to fit in a teacup