Utterly Embarrassing: Black Man Has To Check Another Black Man For Calling Him the N-Word

[jay83]

Guess I’m Larry Holmes status cause I don’t like hearing it used in my presence. I’m not gonna wild out but I’ll ask someone not to use it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/******.htm

Let's turn first to etymology. ****** is derived from the Latin word for the color black, niger. According to the Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, it did not originate as a slur but took on a derogatory connotation over time. ****** and other words related to it have been spelled in a variety of ways, including nikkah, nigguh, niggur, and nikkar. When John Rolfe recorded in his journal the first shipment of Africans to Virginia in 1619, he listed them as "negars." A 1689 inventory of an estate in Brooklyn, New York, made mention of an enslaved "niggor" boy. The seminal lexicographer Noah Webster referred to Negroes as "negers." (Currently some people insist upon distinguishing ******—which they see as exclusively an insult—from nikka, which they view as a term capable of signaling friendly salutation.) In the 1700s niger appeared in what the dictionary describes as "dignified argumentation" such as Samuel Sewall's denunciation of slavery, The Selling of Joseph. No one knows precisely when or how niger turned derisively into ****** and attained a pejorative meaning. We do know, however, that by the end of the first third of the nineteenth century, ****** had already become a familiar and influential insult.

 

[QBN]

did y’all watch his extended explanation?

He does use the word, when he wants to be derogatory. And when he uses the word he thinks of it in its ‘original’ literal sense.


To me that is worse.

If you really believe “n-“ is degrading to black people….you should never use it. And you never should think of your own people in such a way. To believe that there are black people that are “n-ers”, weaponize it against other black people you’re upset/annoyed and in the next breath criticize black people who use it in the same way they say “fukk” has always been confusing to me.

That Chris Rock logic...

 

[DPresidential]

I timestamped the relevant part:

In this video, the narrator actually discusses why "blacks selling blacks" is a historically erroneous statement.

Now, I am not trying to enter a debate about slavery. This point about the etymology of "black" or "black people" is shown here in its divisive origin.

What we'd consider black people at the time would not have understood that classification as they clearly did not view themselves as a monolith.

As a matter of fact, that is another reason that shows how disrespectful the origin of "black" was. It was more than just an attempt to separate us and "them". It was an attempt to STRIP unique identity of the Africans that they subjugated under one clean category - "black"; "negro", "******s", "colored".



Okay, I THINK I'm able to pull myself away from this thread now. It's just a fascinated topic to discuss among other black people(for the most part) and it not be derailed into some full on personal attacks.

Respect. @Matt504 @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited

 

[feelosofer]

I haven't used the word in over a decade. Just a personal choice in how I refer to my brothers and sisters and that is with respect.

 

[DPresidential]

I haven't used the word in over a decade. Just a personal choice in how I refer to my brothers and sisters and that is with respect.

That MF DOOM bar in your sig.Amazing.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

The -a ending literally came from how southern white folks pronounced it and how we typically pronounce words.

I see, I said.