Venezuela Crisis: Failed coup attempt by Juan Guaido; Military remains supporting Nicholas Maduro

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  • Maduro screwed up. We agree.
  • Other SA countries are having to deal with refugees. We agree.
  • It's a humanitarian crisis. We agree.
  • Venezuela needs to diversify its economy and not be so dependent on oil. We agree.
As far as the other points.
  • Oil prices dropped and left an enormous deficit and debt to VN. But it was also exacerbated by not getting oil production up where it should be. IOW, they were also losing money because of oil shortages. Production wasn't at capacity like it should have been. That's why oil infrastructure maintenance is important.
  • The opposition, if you read or watch any of the videos in my post, have also been purposefully holding back basic items, such as cooking oil, toiletries. This was proven by actual video and on the ground reporting. We know the US has been supporting the opposition even before the election and helping them upend the economy.
  • The economy was already on a downturn because of the drop of oil prices. But the sanctions accelerated that misery and in fact made it worse. The sanctions themselves are part of the reason why Venezuelans are fleeing.

I have no problem with Maduro leaving office. I have a problem with the US pushing for it, funding it through opposition parties, and playing a direct and significant role in it.

I understand and agree with most of your points. It’s just hard to ignore the millions starving and fleeing, though. US may have their own agenda and most Venezuelans don’t want US in their business but they do want change. It’s a long time coming, most Venezuelans support this change so :yeshrug:....let’s just see how this all unfolds. I wish Venezuelans luck.
 

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I understand and agree with most of your points. It’s just hard to ignore the millions starving and fleeing, though. US may have their own agenda and most Venezuelans don’t want US in their business but they do want change. It’s a long time coming, most Venezuelans support this change so :yeshrug:....let’s just see how this all unfolds. I wish Venezuelans luck.



@Betty Draper See? Stuff like this is why I'm against US involvement.
 

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  • Maduro screwed up. We agree.
  • Other SA countries are having to deal with refugees. We agree.
  • It's a humanitarian crisis. We agree.
  • Venezuela needs to diversify its economy and not be so dependent on oil. We agree.
As far as the other points.
  • Oil prices dropped and left an enormous deficit and debt to VN. But it was also exacerbated by not getting oil production up where it should be. IOW, they were also losing money because of oil shortages. Production wasn't at capacity like it should have been. That's why oil infrastructure maintenance is important.
  • The opposition, if you read or watch any of the videos in my post, have also been purposefully holding back basic items, such as cooking oil, toiletries. This was proven by actual video and on the ground reporting. We know the US has been supporting the opposition even before the election and helping them upend the economy.
  • The economy was already on a downturn because of the drop of oil prices. But the sanctions accelerated that misery and in fact made it worse. The sanctions themselves are part of the reason why Venezuelans are fleeing.

I have no problem with Maduro leaving office. I have a problem with the US pushing for it, funding it through opposition parties, and playing a direct and significant role in it.


C’mon breh, this is Maduro propaganda and not even well made propaganda.

You can’t seriously beleive the opposition is behind the food shortages and hyperinflation? The military literally has control over food distribution ( power given by Maduro) and has actually used the power to enrich themselves. The opposition has zero control over any organs of power.

Venezuela’s hyperinflation has zero to do with sanctions, most of which are directed at personal assets of Maduro and his key associates. The crisis started the moment the global oil price crashed and they refused to adjust their fiscal policy ( currency and price controls). The crisis predates any of the sanctions placed on Maduro. This is without even touching on the legions of wildly authoritarian gambits he’s pulled with their legislative and judicial institutions. If Bolsonaro did even anything remotely resembling what Maduro has to Brazil’s institutions, leftists would be on the streets around the globe ( and rightfuly so).

There is simply no explaining how the country with the biggest oil reserves in the world has 3 million refugees, widespread malnutrition and hunger, and the highest inflation in the world that places the blame on foreign hands.
 

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C’mon breh, this is Maduro propaganda and not even well made propaganda.

You can’t seriously beleive the opposition is behind the food shortages and hyperinflation? The military literally has control over food distribution ( power given by Maduro) and has actually used the power to enrich themselves. The opposition has zero control over any organs of power.

Venezuela’s hyperinflation has zero to do with sanctions, most of which are directed at personal assets of Maduro and his key associates. The crisis started the moment the global oil price crashed and they refused to adjust their fiscal policy ( currency and price controls). The crisis predates any of the sanctions placed on Maduro. This is without even touching on the legions of wildly authoritarian gambits he’s pulled with their legislative and judicial institutions. If Bolsonaro did even anything remotely resembling what Maduro has to Brazil’s institutions, leftists would be on the streets around the globe ( and rightfuly so).

There is simply no explaining how the country with the biggest oil reserves in the world has 3 million refugees, widespread malnutrition and hunger, and the highest inflation in the world that places the blame on foreign hands.

And this is US propaganda. :manny: Capitalist elites have no say, influence, or power in what's going on? :stopitslime:
 

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Exclusive: Kremlin-linked contractors help guard Venezuela's Maduro - sources
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Private military contractors who do secret missions for Russia flew into Venezuela in the past few days to beef up security for President Nicolas Maduro in the face of U.S.-backed opposition protests, according to two people close to them.

FILE PHOTO: Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro reacts with National Electoral Council (CNE) President Tibisay Lucena during a ceremony to mark the opening of the judicial year at the Supreme Court of Justice (TSJ), in Caracas, Venezuela, January 24, 2019. REUTERS/Carlos Garcia Rawlins/File Photo

A third source close to the Russian contractors also told Reuters there was a contingent of them in Venezuela, but could not say when they arrived or what their role was.

Russia, which has backed Maduro’s socialist government to the tune of billions of dollars, this week promised to stand by him after opposition leader Juan Guaido declared himself president with Washington’s endorsement.

It was the latest international crisis to split the global superpowers, with the United States and Europe backing Guaido, and Russia and China urging non-interference.

Yevgeny Shabayev, leader of a local chapter of a paramilitary group of Cossacks with ties to Russian military contractors, said he had heard the number of Russian contractors in Venezuela may be about 400.

But the other sources spoke of small groups.

Russia’s Defence Ministry and Venezuela’s Information Ministry did not respond to requests for comment about the contractors. But Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: “We have no such information.”

The contractors are associated with the so-called Wagner group whose members, mostly ex-service personnel, fought clandestinely in support of Russian forces in Syria and Ukraine, according to Reuters interviews with dozens of contractors, their friends and relatives.

A person believed to work for the Wagner group did not respond to a message asking for information.

Citing contacts in a Russian state security structure, Shabayev said the contingent flew to Venezuela at the start of this week, a day or two before opposition protests started.

CUBA CONNECTION?
He said they set off in two chartered aircraft for Havana, Cuba, from where they transferred onto regular commercial flights to Venezuela. The Cuban government, a close ally of Venezuela’s ruling socialists for the last two decades, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The contractors’ task in Venezuela was to protect Maduro from any attempt by opposition sympathizers in his own security forces to detain him, Shabayev said.

“Our people are there directly for his protection,” he said.

Venezuelan authorities said they had put down an attempted revolt on Monday by rogue military officers about a kilometer from the presidential palace in Caracas.

Maduro, the 56-year-old successor to Hugo Chavez, only takes to the streets in carefully-controlled situations, since crowds have barracked him in the past.

One of the two anonymous Russian sources, who is close to the Wagner group and fought in foreign conflicts where it was active, said the contractors first arrived in advance of the May 2018 presidential election, but another group arrived “recently.”

Asked if the deployment was linked to protecting Maduro, the source said: “It’s directly connected.” The contractors flew to Venezuela not from Moscow but from third countries where they were conducting missions, he added.

The third source, who is close to the private military contractors, said there was a contingent in Venezuela but he could not provide further details.

“They did not arrive in a big crowd,” he said.

Publicly-available flight-tracking data has shown a number of Russian government aircraft landing in or near Venezuela over past weeks, though there was no evidence the flights were connected to military contractors.

A Russian Ilyushin-96 flew into Havana late on Wednesday after starting its journey in Moscow and flying via Senegal and Paraguay, the data showed.

Pressure mounts on Maduro as U.S. threatens to cut money
The aircraft, a civilian jet, is owned by a division of the Russian presidential administration, according to a publicly-available procurement contract relating to the plane.

Between Dec. 10 and Dec. 14 last year, an Antonov-124 heavy cargo aircraft, and an Ilyushin-76 transport aircraft, carried out flights between Russia and Caracas, flight-tracking data showed. Another Ilyushin-76 was in Caracas from Dec. 12 to Dec. 21 last year. All three aircraft belong to the Russian air force, according to the tracking data.

Additional reporting by Rinat Sagdiev in Moscow, Brian Ellsworth in Caracas and Sarah Marsh in Havana; Writing by Christian Lowe; Editing by Andrew Cawthorne






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@thatrapsfan youve been saying that sanctions haven’t had an affect but I heard on NPR that the govt has been unable to remit earnings from all of their Citgo stations in the US. Couldn’t that just as easily help make a bad situation much worse for Venezuela?
 

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Russia and China holdin shyt down in the UN Assembly meeting right now. Pompeo was hilarious throughout. :russ:

Did y’all see Marco rubio’s tweet lmao

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