Venezuela Crisis: Failed coup attempt by Juan Guaido; Military remains supporting Nicholas Maduro

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@0xLaTeX they dont have fukking toilet paper.

you monster.

And Trump loves the people of Venezuela and wants to take care of them, right?

Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, a US territory, because they're "too Spanish", and yet you think Trump loves Venezuelan people?

You said you were educated and you're falling for Trump/Bolton telling you they love Latin American people? SAD! :russ:

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Who is what worse for? A failed coup leading to an endless civil war? The people on the ground, of course.
Maduro has been rationing electricity in the country, the citizens of the country have been living in hell already. A civil war is going to be how much different if they have to continue to live under a tyrant in the name of "regional stability"?
 

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Maduro has been rationing electricity in the country, the citizens of the country have been living in hell already. A civil war is going to be how much different if they have to continue to live under a tyrant in the name of "regional stability"?

Is that up to you as an American to decide who the Venezuelan government's leader is? Very racist colonizer daddy mindset. Let the people decide if they want to participate in the coup and overthrow Maduro. Not white trash Trump, who we know hates Latin American people.
 

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Is that up to you as an American to decide who the Venezuelan government's leader is? Let the people decide if they want to participate in the coup and overthrow Maduro. Not white trash Trump.
Trump and his administration being weak geopolitically and unable to find their nuts against the Kremlin is a big part of why this crisis will continue for the foreseeable future. Their talk of troops and coup support is lip service because Russia has already setup shop in Venezuela.

Russia shouldn't even feel as if they could put troops in South America, let alone overtly do it with no repercussions. US aid should be in the form of arming and supporting the opposition like has been done across the globe for decades. The people will either stand with the opposition or they won't. In this scenario the opposition has been hung out to dry and the ruling regime has the support of nation state from the other side of the planet.

This is bigger than Trump because he helped make it worse and he isn't going to do anything to make it better.
 

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Is that up to you as an American to decide who the Venezuelan government's leader is? Very racist colonizer daddy mindset. Let the people decide if they want to participate in the coup and overthrow Maduro. Not white trash Trump, who we know hates Latin American people.
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And Trump loves the people of Venezuela and wants to take care of them, right?

Trump doesn't care about Puerto Rico, a US territory, because they're "too Spanish", and yet you think Trump loves Venezuelan people?

You said you were educated and you're falling for Trump/Bolton telling you they love Latin American people? SAD! :russ:

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Venezuela has been in the dumps for over a decade. I remember discussing this with classmates from Venezuela in college YEARS ago.
 

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Would Venezuelans support foreign military intervention?

My research in Venezuela suggests otherwise. All credible polling in Venezuela says that most Venezuelans desperately want Maduro out. But that does not necessarily mean they are open to desperate measures. In November 2018, I worked with Datanálisis, one of Venezuela’s most respected polling companies, to add several questions about military intervention and potential negotiations to its nationwide tracking poll. When asked whether they would support “a foreign military intervention to remove President Maduro from his position,” only 35 percent said yes – hardly the warm welcome predicted by advocates. More than half – 54 percent – would reject such an operation.

Venezuelans are also skeptical of renewed talks with Maduro. Only 37 percent would “agree with a new dialogue between the government and the opposition.” Forty percent are “indifferent” to renewed talks or did not answer the question.

So what do Venezuelans want?
Given how poorly past engagement with Maduro’s government has gone, their doubts are understandable. Interest in further talks balloons, however, if the same question is reframed to include a positive result. When respondents were asked about “a negotiated settlement to remove President Maduro from power,” 63 percent said they would support it. That makes negotiations by far the most popular option for restoring democracy in Venezuela, according to this data.

These results should boost current efforts by the European Union and the Boston Group – a coalition of Venezuelan and American politicians – to restore high-level contact between Venezuelan government figures, opposition leaders and foreign officials. Diplomacy may be slow and frustrating. But a negotiated settlement would have the support of the people who matter most: the Venezuelans who must survive Maduro’s rule.

Most Venezuelans Want Maduro Out, but Oppose Military Intervention - WOLA
 

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Maduro has been rationing electricity in the country, the citizens of the country have been living in hell already. A civil war is going to be how much different if they have to continue to live under a tyrant in the name of "regional stability"?
Yea because of REPEATED outside attacks on their power plant. :heh:

And living hell? How about dropping the sanctions first?:heh:
 

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Evidence was already shown. Even China backed their statements. :heh:

It was ALREADY shown that there were live rounds fired at the power plant. Come on...
Post it. I guess the same saboteurs were firing rounds at their power plant since 2013 as well. I guess the president of the Venezuelan association of Electrical and Mechanical Engineering is exaggerating the failing power grid.

Maduro’s announcement this weekend was years in the making.

“Since 2013 the grid has been in crisis, but the billons of dollars Maduro dedicated to it were largely pilfered,” David Smilde, a Venezuela expert at the Washington Office on Latin America human rights organization, told me. That partly explains why during a 2016 drought, for example, Maduro asked shopping malls and others to ration their power usage.

But a situation like this is unprecedented. “The only thing that prevented this from happening before is the economic contraction of the past several years,” Smilde continued. “Declining industry, declining consumption, and a declining population have reduced demand. But now the deterioration of the grid has caught up with that decline.”

And the deterioration is massive. “The whole power grid is barely generating between 5,500 and 6,000 megawatts, when it has the capacity to generate 34,000 megawatts,” Winton Cabas, the president of the Venezuelan association of Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, told AFP on April 1.

Those problems have exacerbated humanitarian suffering in Venezuela.

About 70 percent of the country, including the capital, Caracas, is experiencing blackouts. It’s made hospitals struggle to treat patients or allow patients to give birth safely, and made it harder for Venezuelans to get food or water.

Source in the edit of my post above.
 

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Venezuela has been in the dumps for over a decade. I remember discussing this with classmates from Venezuela in college YEARS ago.

And you think Trump loves Latin American people and wants to help them? C'mon man , we already know he hates even Puerto Rico for being too Spanish:snoop:
 
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