Venezuela Crisis: Failed coup attempt by Juan Guaido; Military remains supporting Nicholas Maduro

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I've posted detailed articles written contemporaneously, academic research articles, investigative journalist pieces across the ideological spectrum, and TV news spots from several different countries ranging from independent non-corporate sources to state media....all backing my stance up.

There no benefit to defending Maduro.

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Venezuela’s Opposition Came Close to Ousting the President—but the Plan Fell Apart
Juan Forero, José de Córdoba and Kejal Vyas
8-10 minutes
BOGOTÁ, Colombia—Venezuela’s opposition came tantalizingly close to removing President Nicolás Maduro from power this week, according to more than a dozen people involved in talks to oust him.

But in the end, it all went wrong.

For the past two months, key opposition figures, led by Juan Guaidó, the young head of the National Assembly, had met with highly placed figuresin Mr. Maduro’s government, including military officers accused of rights abuses, trying to cut a deal for a peaceful transfer of power.

Meetings took place in Panama and the Dominican Republic, as well as here in Colombia’s capital
, according to interviews with more than a dozen people with knowledge of the talks.

While both sides were far apart at first, they came to agree on one thing: Mr. Maduro had to go.

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Residents protesting at a rally against the government of President Nicolás Maduro on Friday Caracas, Venezuela. Photo: Edilzon Gamez/Getty Images

Crucially, they decided, it was to be done not through a military coup, unpalatable to many in Venezuela and abroad, but rather through a court ruling that would permit the military to step away from Mr. Maduro and put the country on a path back to democracy.


Under the plan, the country’s top court, the Supreme Justice Tribunal, was to recognize the opposition-controlled National Assembly, the last democratically elected body in Venezuela, as the legitimate representative of the Venezuelan people.

The armed forces would then have legal grounds to abandon Mr. Maduro. The defense minister, Vladimir Padrino López, and others who were negotiating with the opposition, would join the new government.

“Padrino was to say, ‘Okay, this a ruling, we have to listen, we have to comply, this is the judicial power speaking,’” said one person with knowledge of the negotiations.
“The armed forces commit themselves to make good with this institutional approach.”

The deal, however, unraveled on Tuesday for reasons that couldn’t be determined, leading to street clashes that led to the deaths of five people and a hunt for opposition figures by the regime.

Some of those familiar with the events say the surprise, predawn appearance that day of a well-known opposition leader, Leopoldo López, alongside Mr. Guaidó—with both calling for an uprising—prompted those in the regime who had been negotiating to withdraw their support for the pact.

Mr. López said the intelligence police, the Sebin, who had been guarding his home where he was under house arrest had released him. The head of the Sebin, Gen. Manuel Figuera, issued a statement that night announcing his break with Mr. Maduro.


But the appearance of Mr. López, head of the Popular Will party of which Mr. Guaidó is a member, outside an air base hadn’t been part of the script laid out in the talks between the regime conspirators and opposition negotiators.

Those close to the talks said the two men’s call for an uprising broke confidence with the regime negotiators, who then pulled out of the pact.


“Leopoldo pulled the trigger quickly and we lost a golden opportunity to convince the Venezuelan military to oust Maduro,” said an opposition figure in Washington who is in close contact with leading Maduro foes in Venezuela.

Mr. López, who fled into diplomatic exile at the Spanish Embassy Tuesday, couldn’t be reached for comment. He emerged on Thursday, telling reporters there had been “no intent at a coup d’état” on Tuesday.

Many others in the opposition defend Mr. López and say he and Mr. Guaidó acted on Tuesday only after their interlocutors in the regime began to back out of the agreement. It isn’t known whether they did so because counterintelligence agents had discovered the plot or because key actors on the government side never had any intention of pulling their support for Mr. Maduro.

Some suspect that latter scenario in the case of the defense minister, Mr. Padrino. Some people familiar with the events of the last few days say he was using the negotiations to smoke out traitors and detect anti-Maduro plotting.


“It was naiveté to confide in these operators who are compromised with the government mafias of Maduro and Diosdado,” one opposition figure said, referring to the president and the government’s No. 2, Diosdado Cabello.

In January, a senior Trump administration official told The Wall Street Journal that efforts to negotiate with Mr. Padrino had failed. “It became absolutely clear that he was completely subjected to the regime,” the official said.

To be sure, some members of the armed forces, while supportive of the negotiations to remove Mr. Maduro, were aware that the talks could be used to detect dissidents. An audio recording provided to the Journal by a top opposition figure features purported military officers discussing that prospect.

“We are worried this is a trap,” one unidentified officer can be heard saying, speaking on Tuesday after Mr. Guaidó called on the military to rise up. “We have units that are ready to go out, with difficulty, because the operation wasn’t planned for today. But the problem is that if we don’t have enough force, the movement will collapse.”

Despite the plot’s ultimate failure, those who pursued the negotiations say they were on the cusp of putting Venezuela on track toward ending authoritarian rule. Mr. Guaidó’s political party had even negotiated that a 20-second advertisement calling Venezuelans to May 1 antigovernment protests was aired on three major television networks and on radio stations that had long succumbed to government censorship and stripped critical programming.

To ensure the support of key high-ranking officials, a 15-page document permitted people such as Mr. Padrino and Maikel Moreno, the head of the Supreme Justice Tribunal, to remain in their posts. Concerns about rights abuses committed by some of those people involved would have also been addressed, said a person who has been close to those in power in Venezuela and had knowledge of the plans. Gen. Figuera, the head of the secret police, was among those “proposing everything for a transition,” the person said.

Mr. Figuera has since fled the country, people familiar with his situation said. And those government officials who had been identified as having been part of the conspiracy against Mr. Maduro came out publicly in nationally staged events to show their support for the president. They included Mr. Padrino, the defense minister; Gen. Ivan Hernández, head of military counterintelligence; and Gen. Jésus Suárez Chourio, head of the army. All appeared with Mr. Maduro on Thursday as he gave a speech to troops at Fort Tiuna, a base in Caracas.

Judge Moreno, in a phone call to state television on Tuesday, rejected the attempt to remove Mr. Maduro.

Mr. Padrino acknowledged that people had reached out to him to get him to turn against the government he serves.

“They’re trying to buy us off as if we were some kind of mercenaries,” he said, standing next to Mr. Maduro. “Those who have fallen for that, fallen into selling their soldier spirit, cease being soldiers and, of course, can’t be among us.”

—Maolis Castro and Ginette González in Caracas and Vivian Salama in Washington contributed to this article.

Write to Juan Forero at Juan.Forero@wsj.com, José de Córdoba at jose.decordoba@wsj.comand Kejal Vyas at kejal.vyas@wsj.com










Bruh. ... even the military got cold feet...Maduro is on the clock :wow: @88m3 @dtownreppin214

How can anyone view this as a win for Maduro? This isn't confidence, this is cowardice :wow:

Even the CIA was saying Maduro had the jet gassed up ready to go to Havana :wow:
 

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Ain’t nobody caping.

Trump and his generals are the ones who decided this was the hill to fight on and back the opposition. Why is what AOC thinking about this of any consequence to what Trump and his administration gonna do?

I don’t see anyone asking why Jared hasn’t been sent there to figure this out like he did Israel.
 

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Was a Russian Plot Behind the Venezuela Coup?
Well-informed sources in Caracas say it’s not only the Trump administration that’s hoping for a coup in Venezuela, it’s Vladimir Putin. But on his terms.
Annika Hernroth
05.05.19 11:18 AM ET
CARACAS, Venezuela—“I was there, I saw it with my own eyes. Guaidó was asking the military to let him into La Carlota, and they refused, and then a few minutes afterwards he was making that video claiming he was inside.”

I am interviewing a senior law enforcement officer whom we’ll call Simón. He was at the La Carlota military airbase at 4 a.m. on April 30 in an official capacity. He tells me, in a furious staccato, that the morning everyone is talking about—the coup that dared not speak its name, and failed—was more smoke and mirrors than an image of history in the making.

“When he [self-declared, U.S.-backed President Juan Guaidó] called for the Venezuelan people to come and join him, Guaidó gave the impression that he had the support of the military and that they had turned, but that wasn’t even almost true,” Simón says. “He tried to win time and turn the tide using public opinion—based on a fundamental untruth.”

Simón tells me that the soldiers who were seen behind Guaidó and the SEBIN intelligence service brass, who were said to have turned and joined the opposition, had all been given money and offered an exit from Venezuela in exchange for their participation in the events of April 30. He also confirms what the now exiled Diputado Ismael García had told me two days prior: the big statement outside La Carlota was supposed to take place on May 1, the day of enormous protest that the opposition had called for weeks earlier.

That plan crumbled when, at 2 a.m., the opposition got a tip-off that its most famous leader, Leopoldo López, after years of house arrest, was going to be moved from his home in central Caracas to the SEBIN prison, probably not to be seen again. So the plan was put into action quickly, the first domino was tilted and the result was a makeshift coup that never really was. Without Leopoldo López there wouldn’t be a strong enough statement to rile up the public, but, as we now know, a statement without proper execution can sometimes be even worse.


When I ask Simón what he thinks will happen next, if the moment has truly passed, he tells me that he thinks that the government may fall but that it won’t be because of the opposition.

“This is being decided by other actors, in America and Russia, but of course this process needs a leader of sorts, a figure that serves as inspiration, and that’s what Guaidó is, and his future after all of this is said and done seems highly problematic” he says.

Simón is what some would call a character straight out of central casting, the kind of rugged Clint Eastwood-type that exudes honor and dignity. He carries himself like a military man, and says no more than he absolutely has to, so when he expands on anything, you know it comes straight from the heart.

“Mira, signora, I won’t hide that I want this change, that I need it—not for me, but my children,” Simón says. “That is why I’m so pissed off by all of these fukking tactics, the games from the opposition, lying to people in order to use them to make a push so loud and chaotic that the armed forces won’t have a choice but to turn.”

And it was loud and chaotic. According to my sources, the death toll following April 30 is not five, as widely reported, but 15, and the injured exceed 200.
What Simón is saying, be it right or wrong, is that the blood is on everyone’s hands for managing this crisis with such utter disregard for timing and transparency. When I ask him if it would be different if Leopoldo López took Guaidó’s place and stepped up as president, Simón shakes his head and draws a breath that echoes across the courtyard.

“I saw Leopoldo’s eyes on April 30, I saw his demeanor, and he is broken. The torture he was put through, the things he survived, he may as well be dead,” he says. “Or no, I take that back. He is dead. He is not a leader anymore, he is just another dead man standing in the street.”

According to a man we will call Alejandro, an organizing force within the opposition who has chosen not to affiliate with a specific party, the failed coup was actually a success, long term.

The original plan was for Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López and three other generals to negotiate with the U.S. to hand power over to Guaidó and have Maduro leave for Cuba, but at the last minute that operation went awry.

“Guaidó found out that they were going to arrest him and most of us think that he was simply set up,” Alejandro says. “The generals, with Padrino in charge, were going to double cross him and send Leopoldo López to Ramo Verde [military prison].”

So, Alejandro says, they go with a plan B; Guaidó and Leopoldo López decide to advance quickly, counting on the FANB, the National Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela, to support them even without the treacherous generals.


Russia, seeing that its plan to have Padrino López seize power and ensure stability for their investments is about to go awry, has Padrino stop Maduro from going to Cuba to avoid a power vacuum that could allow the opposition to succeed despite themselves and, with the tiles falling one after one and their supposed protector Guaidó risking imprisonment, the FANB back out of the deal and the coup comes to a halt.

Alejandro and Simón’s information and analysis certainly have overlap, and both men seem to have hope that this story is far from over.

Simón seems resigned to the idea that Venezuelans on their own will not achieve real change and that the cost of liberty is a trade-off with a foreign power. Alejandro, a man who at least on the surface is still invested in the beautiful narrative of a national uprising led by the people and their chosen champion, sees the failed coup as a blessing in disguise.

“The reality is that if Plan A had not been aborted, today we would have a military dictatorship led by Padrino and in the service of Russia. The opposition wasn’t shot down, it dodged a bullet,” he says.

The interim president himself admitted to The Washington Post on Saturday that mistakes were made in the execution of the plan to oust President Maduro and that the opposition had miscalculated the support from the military. Guaidó also said that he would take any offer of help from the U.S. military directly to a vote in the National Assembly, which is more or less what he said two months ago.

So where does this leave everything? What is the next step for a crisis that seems to be taking three steps forward and two steps back?

Between Simón, Alejandro and Guaidó, I am most inclined to go with Alejandro's hopeful cynicism, where you acknowledge that everyone lies and pray that in the end change will come despite the characters who usher it in.


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