Verzuz Presents: Bone Thugz vs 3-6 Mafia

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Them actually bringing Shatasha out was an automatic win in that round, mic problems and all

And that's what the problem is.

Nxggas is giving them wins for shyt that aren't really wins, all because of a predilection for BTNH. They could've done anything out there, and y'all would still be trying to manipulate what happened into them taking the W.

This is why it's a futile exercise arguing over this.

 

[madness]

And that's what the problem is.

Nxggas is giving them wins for shyt that aren't really wins, all because of a predilection for BTNH. They could've done anything out there, and y'all would still be trying to manipulate what happened into them taking the W.

This is why it's a futile exercise arguing over this.

I gave my personal opinion on that one round. If my opinion on who took that round bothers you then At the end of the day, I got to thoroughly enjoy an epic show put on by 2 of the most influential groups in music history, which is why you don't see me throwing a hissy fit about "who won"

 

[Wacky D]

This isn't true, at all.

The consensus was Three Six had it in the first half, and then Bone dragged it back in the second, and the posts were less about thinking Bone won, and more reacting to them coming back. You had some dishonest muh'fukkas that were trying to shift the narrative by comparing songs/rounds, on paper, and not as they existed in that format as they were performed.

And besides, none of that shyt means a cotdamn thing when you had folks already making up their minds on who won before it even began.



It's like the whole thing with Shatasha, her appearance and the hype around it already gave nxggas the impression that the song won before it even started, when in reality, her mic wasn't right, and she didn't get a chance to do her thing. That was a round that Bone should've taken comprehensively, but their execution was all off. But because nxggas have it in their heads that Thuggish Ruggish Bone is the better song, that therefore means they won that round. This is where the disconnect stems from in this thread, you've just got a whole bunch of people who're trying to compare the songs based on their frame of reference, rather than how they exist in the context of the Verzuz.

So basically, Busta rhymes can defeat anybody on a verzus battle.

Is that where this verzus chit is going? Cuz if so, artists are gonna stop participating in it.

If my legacy goes into question because a group with an inferior catalog brings money, strippers and Terrance Howard, then I'm not bothering g with this chit either.

Nevermind the fact that the crowd was clearly behind bone. But I guess that doesn't count either, right?

And if anything, 36 mafia are the ones who stepped it up in the 2nd half but you gave that ass backwards as well.

 

[breakfuss]

So basically, Busta rhymes can defeat anybody on a verzus battle.

Why do you think no one wants to go up against him ? The performance 100% matters. As it should. How is this a bizarre concept? If we're only gonna judge an artist's catalog in a vacuum of "legacy" everyone could stay home and send each other Spotify playlists.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And if anything, 36 mafia are the ones who stepped it up in the 2nd half but you gave that ass backwards as well.

I don't think they "stepped it up", because their energy was constant throughout. Bone dragged it back with their song choices, and Juicy J doing his damned best to point shave.

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

How can anyone say Three 6 won when the whole damn second half of their selections were features and damn near a Juicy J solo? LOL I'll give them the first half they carried that on energy alone, the Bone selections were just too mellow in the beginning. But that second half Bone easily racked that up. Project Pat isn't even in the group so I don't even know how he got to perform... Them being allowed to use songs that don't belong to them is some cheater shyt tho.. I felt the same way about the Lox/Dipset shyt.

Nah Bone wasn't doing like 36 was. Go watch it again when they did mo murda they basically stayed on their side. Yeah they moved a little when the verse came up but they should have covered the whole stage with all 5 members.

From what I remember no one was crossing each others side of the stage until after Lil Eazy did it when he performed Eazy's verse from For The Love Of Money.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So basically, Busta rhymes can defeat anybody on a verzus battle.

Is that where this verzus chit is going? Cuz if so, artists are gonna stop participating in it.

They're on stage, live, performing.

What do you think the Verzuz is about, if it ain't primarily about that?

If my legacy goes into question because a group with an inferior catalog brings money, strippers and Terrance Howard, then I'm not bothering g with this chit either.

You don't need gimmicks, you just need to shape the perception that your shyt is better.

Ain't that at its very core what battling is all about? Ain't that at its very core what hip hop is? It don't mean a cotdamn thing what you say, but it's how you say it. What's the point in having this shyt if muh'fukkas are just going to compare these songs as they're recorded, and not compare them as how they're performed? What's the point in having this shyt if muh'fukkas are going in with this bias of who has the better catalog, who's sold more records, who's more well-known, who's got better multis, who's got a more identifiable image, who's had more influence on their music upbringing etc?

And I don't know why you're talking about legacy. It ain't that serious. Nobody's winning any awards, nobody's career is going to be erased or come under question, and nobody's discography is going to be tarnished. This shyt is for fun; to bring the spirit of the game back. That's all it is. It should be treated in that manner, rather than stans and region elitists trying to fight for whatever make-believe points they think they can attain from this.

 

[OmegaK2099]

 

[nairdas]

How can anyone say Three 6 won when the whole damn second half of their selections were features and damn near a Juicy J solo? LOL I'll give them the first half they carried that on energy alone, the Bone selections were just too mellow in the beginning. But that second half Bone easily racked that up. Project Pat isn't even in the group so I don't even know how he got to perform... Them being allowed to use songs that don't belong to them is some cheater shyt tho.. I felt the same way about the Lox/Dipset shyt.



From what I remember no one was crossing each others side of the stage until after Lil Eazy did it when he performed Eazy's verse from For The Love Of Money.

Okay, that still doesn't change my point. Bone didn't do how 3 6 was doing it.

 

[Wacky D]

I don't think they "stepped it up", because their energy was constant throughout. Bone dragged it back with their song choices, and Juicy J doing his damned best to point shave.

I was more into the songs 36 mafia played out the gate, rather than the stuff they played later. But the crowd wasn't ro kin that heavy and 46 mafia was playing themselves, trying to do a call-n-response to a dead crowd. The crowd picked up for them later on with all the guests they were bringing out.

And even then, the crowd was chanting for bone. But let yall tell it, 36 mafia washed bone off the stage.

And did you just say chickenhead won the round over Thuggish ruggish bone? That's just ridiculous.

 

[28 Gramz]

I was more into the songs 36 mafia played out the gate, rather than the stuff they played later. But the crowd wasn't ro kin that heavy and 46 mafia was playing themselves, trying to do a call-n-response to a dead crowd. The crowd picked up for them later on with all the guests they were bringing out.

And even then, the crowd was chanting for bone. But let yall tell it, 36 mafia washed bone off the stage.

And did you just say chickenhead won the round over Thuggish ruggish bone? That's just ridiculous.

Bone is an adopted west coast group. The crowd reaction was biased as hell and Three Six still won.

The rounds Bone won..
Notorious Thugs
Thug Luv
Mo Murda
Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Breakdown
For the Love of money

They lost every other round and it would have been have worse if Juicy J didn't get his David Ruffin shyt off in the second half. Project Pat could have also been a bigger part of their show.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

So basically, Busta rhymes can defeat anybody on a verzus battle.

Is that where this verzus chit is going? Cuz if so, artists are gonna stop participating in it.

If my legacy goes into question because a group with an inferior catalog brings money, strippers and Terrance Howard, then I'm not bothering g with this chit either.

Nevermind the fact that the crowd was clearly behind bone. But I guess that doesn't count either, right?

And if anything, 36 mafia are the ones who stepped it up in the 2nd half but you gave that ass backwards as well.

People went in thinking Bone was the superior group so 3 6 had to do what they had to do to get people to notice them. I think rappers are going to pretty much do whey they did from now on. I think Bone picked a few songs that day didn’t make any sense for a song battle but I’m not mad at this Verzuz at all. It ended up being great.

 

[Wacky D]

They're on stage, live, performing.

What do you think the Verzuz is about, if it ain't primarily about that?

You don't need gimmicks, you just need to shape the perception that your shyt is better.

And I don't know why you're talking about legacy. It ain't that serious. Nobody's winning any awards, nobody's career is going to be erased or come under question, and nobody's discography is going

You should tell this to some of the guys arguing side by side with you, if that's how you feel.

And yes, it's primarily about the music. This whole verzus thing started off as beat battles for Pete's sake. Then it turned into writers and artists battling from remote locations.

And even when it went live, nobody was rating performances until the lox/dipset thing, and most of that was based off of narratives.

And even with this, we knew 36 mafia was gonna have more energy. They're a party/crunky group. They're supposed to have more energy and foolery. If that's the logic we're working with, then what's the point of them even having this show?

Besides, I preferred bone's performance anyway. They won rounds beating 36 mafia at their own game with the south chit, then hit you with a variety of other chit. They also had the better guests and best of all, they hit you with the all-timer classic rap chit, which 36 mafia doesn't even have in their arsenal.

Hell, 36 mafia wasn't even present for the grand finale. Them dudes ran off the stage like "freestyle?? Let's get out of here".

But to answer your question, yes I'm taking the live performanxe into account- which is why I simply said bone won, instead of saying they outright trashed 36 mafia. If it was all about the music, I would have bone winning like 16 rounds out of 20. There are rounds that I gave to 36 mafia despite them not having the better song.

 

[spliz]

Bone is an adopted west coast group. The crowd reaction was biased as hell and Three Six still won.

The rounds Bone won..
Notorious Thugs
Thug Luv
Mo Murda
Thuggish Ruggish Bone
Breakdown
For the Love of money

They lost every other round and it would have been have worse if Juicy J didn't get his David Ruffin shyt off in the second half. Project Pat could have also been a bigger part of their show.

Wow. The bolded is some straight up goofy fanboy shyt y’all wildin.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

We going at three 6 for there devil worshipper gimick huh Bizzy?