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[dora_da_destroyer]

At your school. Your school isn't the rest of the world. Wayne put out a whole album when the world stanned CMR. Turk didn't and that's the point. We will never know what Turk would've or could've been because he didn't put out an album until CMR had fizzled out. They even dropped another Hot Boys album that went nowhere with Let Em Burn. I remember Turk's album being anticipated. I remember there being hype when "Its In Me" dropped.

Bro, it’s a whole bunch of us in here from different locales who are reiterating the same thing - no one cared about Turk IRT or now. He was an ultimate bench player. You keep trying to spin your opinion or experience as the average, and it wasn’t

 

[JustCKing]

Double post

 

[Legal]

Breh got more concrete details for a watch party than they do for people to stream the thing they're supposed to be watching, five days before it's supposed to happen. This is crazy.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

LOL. Wayne put out albums during the height of CMR mania. There wasn't a Trunk album until that initial run had fizzled out. Nobody's disputing that Turk had the least successful album of the Hot Boys.

It’s just the continued false equivalency between Wayne and Turk…Wayne was literally the second biggest solo act on the label during that period …his second album came out a couple months before Turk’s debut and basically tripled it’s sales …why do you think every other member got multiple albums released before Turk’s first? BG was just as big or bigger of a fukk up behind the scenes, but they had no issue putting out his albums to take advantage of demand

 

[Legal]

Wait, are brehs really arguing whether or not Turk was the Cash Money member cared least about?

It's fukked up that he didn't get invited, but let's not act like they're willingly keeping one of their most important hitmakers off the show or something. They'll be fine.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It isn't a whole bunch of you and its laughable because this board is harldy a good barometer for a general consensus of anything. There is a lot this baord has gotten wrong and has been wrong on. Whole board was in agreement that The Source had rated the bootleg version of I Am... 4.5 mics. The review from the actual magazine was posted debunking the myth and people still hold onto the myth. That's just one example.

I am not teying to spin my experience as anything. All I said was that the notion that Turk was the weakest link or mediocre is revisionist.

And you're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of.

Except it’s not. It was reality. Who was the weakest link? you can (try to) put Wayne in the same bucket but bro simply stood out more from being the youngest to even having placement on Juvie’s biggest song, to having his own hot single “the block is hot”. Wayne was almost but not quite while Turk was just there

 

[db81]

Turk was never on Wayne’s level. Never. Wayne had already dropped the B.G’s with B.G. and had memorable songs with just him and B.G on B.G.’s solo albums. Wayne had the biggest solo song on the first hit boys album. Block Burner was #1 on the radio for a long time. Wayne had all the teenagers. He really stepped up with memorable verses on the big tymers album. So by the time they dropped 400 degreez Wayne was miles ahead of Turk. Turk and BG was drugging hard around that time which made it even easier for Wayne to move up. Then Wayne started stepping up his rhyme schemes on his second album and the rest is history. Turk never stood a chance.

 

[JustCKing]

It’s just the continued false equivalency between Wayne and Turk…Wayne was literally the second biggest solo act on the label during that period …his second album came out a couple months before Turk’s debut and basically tripled it’s sales …why do you think every other member got multiple albums released before Turk’s first? BG was just as big or bigger of a fukk up behind the scenes, but they had no issue putting out his albums to take advantage of demand

From my understanding, Turk didn't have the work ethic and couldn't stay out of trouble.

B.G. was a hige reason why CMR even got the Universal deal. He was as important to their success as Juve. He was going to be priority. That still didn't stop them from parting with him once his issues became bigger.

They still dropped a Turk album because there was a demand for it. He could've been shelved if he was as inconsequential as some of you want to make him out to be.

Wayne was the second biggest solo act commercially. He was still behind B.G. and Juve overall. Turk and Wayne were supporting roles especially by them being the youngest (they are only 1 year a part)

 

[JustCKing]

Wait, are brehs really arguing whether or not Turk was the Cash Money member cared least about?

It's fukked up that he didn't get invited, but let's not act like they're willingly keeping one of their most important hitmakers off the show or something. They'll be fine.

The point where breh agreed to disagree should have ended the discussion, byt here we are.

 

[CanesMiamiLakers]

I never heard anybody say Turk was the favorite hot boy lol. Everyone but Turk had success once they left cash money. Hell has any major artist ever featured Turk on a song?

 

[JustCKing]

Except it’s not. It was reality. Who was the weakest link? you can (try to) put Wayne in the same bucket but bro simply stood out more from being the youngest to even having placement on Juvie’s biggest song, to having his own hot single “the block is hot”. Wayne was almost but not quite while Turk was just there

That youngest argument is neither here or there considering B.G., Wayne, Turk, are about a year and some change apart. There wasn't much difference in age among them whereas Juve is like 5-6 years older than them. And LOL his placement on Juve's biggest song is him saying wobble d wobble and drop it like its hot. Mannie Fresh is also featured. And that song would still be Juve's biggest song with or without Wayne.

During their hey day, Wayne had like two placements: a remix of Young Bloodz "U Way" (his first outside CMR) and a feature on Nelly's debut. Neither of these happened because either artist thought he was the best on the group or their favorite. According to Nelly, Wayne was the only one who believed in his music and was the only feature who agreed to be on the album. Young Bloodz talked about being cool with Wayne and they did the remix.

 

[JustCKing]

Except it’s not. It was reality. Who was the weakest link? you can (try to) put Wayne in the same bucket but bro simply stood out more from being the youngest to even having placement on Juvie’s biggest song, to having his own hot single “the block is hot”. Wayne was almost but not quite while Turk was just there

That youngest argument is neither here or there considering B.G., Wayne, Turk, are about a year and some change apart. There wasn't much difference in age among them whereas Juve is like 5-6 years older than them. And LOL his placement on Juve's biggest song is him saying "wobble d wobble and drop it like its hot". Mannie Fresh is also featured. And that song would still be Juve's biggest song with or without Wayne.

During their hey day, Wayne had like two placements: a remix of Young Bloodz "U Way" (his first outside CMR) and a feature on Nelly's debut. Neither of these happened because either artist thought he was the best on the group or their favorite. According to Nelly, Wayne was the only one who believed in his music and was the only feature who agreed to be on the album. Young Bloodz talked about being cool with Wayne and they did the remix.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That youngest argument is neither here or there considering B.G., Wayne, Turk, are about a year and some change apart. There wasn't much difference in age among them whereas Juve is like 5-6 years older than them. And LOL his placement on Juve's biggest song is him saying wobble d wobble and drop it like its hot. Mannie Fresh is also featured. And that song would still be Juve's biggest song with or without Wayne.

During their hey day, Wayne had like two placements: a remix of Young Bloodz "U Way" (his first outside CMR) and a feature on Nelly's debut. Neither of these happened because either artist thought he was the best on the group or their favorite. According to Nelly, Wayne was the only one who believed in his music and was the only feature who agreed to be on the album. Young Bloodz talked about being cool with Wayne and they did the remix.

none of this answered my question...who was the weakest/biggest afterthought since it wasnt turk?

 

[JustCKing]

non of this answered my question...who was the weakest if not turk?

That was never my point. All four of them served a purpose. You had Juvenile and B.G. at the forefront with Turk and Wayne as supporting members during the initial run. Nobody looked at them and thought any of them were a weak link. That was my initial point. Nobody was listening to them and were like "why is he even in the group?". The revision is people acting like the Hot Boys had a Pras. They didn't.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That was never my point. All four of them served a purpose. You had Juvenile and B.G. at the forefront with Turk and Wayne as supporting members during the initial run. Nobody looked at them and thought any of them were a weak link. That was my initial point. Nobody was listening to them and were like "why is he even in the group?". The revision is people acting like the Hot Boys had a Pras. They didn't.

Yes, plenty of people did. Your use of nobody is exactly why people keep going in on this.

And you don’t have to think “why is he in the group” for them to be the weakest. And people having zero care about them is the epitome of being forgettable/an afterthought