Vice tears Kid Cudi apart for his Arsenio Hall interview

[jaydolf spitler]

i saw that interview and i couldnt fck wit that noonsense cudi was spewing ..total lack of acknowledgement of our history, our current place in this country and for him to tell us to remove our boasting of our financial successes completely instead of suggesting we liken our bragging to be more in line with accumulating wealth was stupid...his whole rant was a bunch of bullsht and is not needed in the pro black excellence movement that will come from the hands of Hov and Jay Elec with Jay elec's album

So u couldn't fukk with it because he called for more meaningful lyrics that people can relate to and help them through life rather than a bunch of superficial money talk? and where was this lack of acknowledgement for our history you speak of? If I recall correctly the interview question was asking him what he felt the current state of hip hop needs

 

[jaydolf spitler]

delete

 

[flea]

he sounded like a cold bytch during that interview. i was embarrassed for hip hop

 

[kermit da hustla]

in actuality, I think music and artists like Chief Keef makes white people more comfortable than the other.

yup, any music that shows black people in a state of emotional and intellectual stasis is perfectly acceptable to white people. they relish seeing black people killing each other and denigrating their women. black men who actually promote positive lifestyles, family, education, and anything that isn't degenerate is frowned upon by whites. black men who exhibit actual intelligence are seen as outsiders who aren't authentic representatives of the "black" experience.

 

[blackslash]

So u couldn't fukk with it because he called for more meaningful lyrics that people can relate to and help them through life rather than a bunch of superficial money talk? and where was this lack of acknowledgement for our history you speak of? If I recall correctly the interview question was asking him what he felt the current state of hip hop needs

he said to do away with all the bragging and boasting of success and cudi doesnt properly lay out why we do it and its place in hip hop and the black community
A black man who doesnt see our monetary and financial successes as meaningful is ignorant to our place in this country and ignorant on where we came from

 

[DAlbert]

personally, I think it's interesting about how he says

"hip hop isn't about making white people comfortable"

yet, you got all these young white teens (like on ktt) dikk riding trap and drill music, then there was a thread that was made calling Jay Z and Jay Elec a racist for their new song. they call black empowerment and uplifting music "dusty and boring" and shyt on it.

in actuality, I think music and artists like Chief Keef makes white people more comfortable than the other.

I'm on KTT too, and I'll say it and say it again

Most white people listen to rap because a lot of mainstream shyt perpetrates black stereotypes and makes them feel "superior" and overall better about themselves.

 

[Mike Otherz]

Harry Allen, Armond White, Nelson George, Greg Tate? that late 80's to mid 90's rap criticism.

feel bad for younginz coming up on this clowns.

 

[Sugarbush]

I'm on KTT too, and I'll say it and say it again

Most white people listen to rap because a lot of mainstream shyt perpetrates black stereotypes and makes them feel "superior" and overall better about themselves.

Muthafckers never loved us

 

[osama bin fly]

coli black activists in full force in this thread

 

[Microfracture]

Trash article.

This is an opinion that doesn't have to be bashed even though I disagree with him. That style doesn't need to be deaded, it just needs to be reserved for the people that still fukk with it.

 

[h2o_proof]

I get what he's talking about after watching the interview, but Hip-Hop still needs to have the freedom to be all things to all people.

There is however a connection between what Cudi states the mission of his music is and the aspects he believe should be "deaded" but no one in Hip-Hop really has the courage, or gives a fukk enough to connect the dots. Or maybe they feel that doing so would somehow cut off their stream of revenue.

He speaks about loneliness, lack of self worth and suicidal thoughts. Truth be told, a lot of the braggadocio and money talk is rooted in that same lack of self worth. A lot of the disrespect of women is also rooted in lack of self worth or loneliness. So really the only thing different he is doing is giving you his insecurities instead of allowing you the pleasure of discovery through the music.

I think where Cudi has to be careful, and the writer semi-eludes to this in the opening statement, is that there's a line between art and commentary that has to be skillfully walked. The art aspect of the music, for the most part is for the listener to decide, you can't force information onto people through music because then it's propaganda. The listener needs to be able to pull from it whatever they please. For example, Scarface has made numerous songs where he speaks about suicidal thoughts, he doesn't really go in depth about the root cause or how he worked through the issue to create a one-size-fits-all message for the listener rather he respects the narrative and allows the listener to participate in the journey to take what they need from it

 

[up in here]

Wow this writer really caught feelings off that Cudi interview, lol.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

wow. thanks for posting that, i'll make sure I never listen to that band, not that I had an interest in listening to it anyways.

also, I think it's interesting how if a rapper eludes a lot of confidence they'll get slammed for it. now a days, you can't refer to yourself as God or make any sort of religious reference without being "Illuminati" or some shyt, where as in the 90's you had so many NY rappers referring to themselves as that.

i was reading the youtube comments on Asap Fergs song, where he plays the part of being this sort of savior figure rapping about the ills of the streets, the song is called Hood Pope and there were comments calling it blasphemous and saying him thinking hes a god is devilish. meanwhile, the comments on a song where hes rapping about fukking some dudes bytch were like "damn, this song go hard!" also seen an interview of Rocky where he explains why he doesn't wear diamonds because Kings didn't and the comments were filled with a bunch of shyt like "who the fukk does this ignorant loser think he is? he isn't no fukking king!"

Funny how black royalty = illumnati = devil worship

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

coli black activists in full force in this thread

Yup and it's only going to get worse guess you should stop posting now

 

[DAlbert]

Muthafckers never loved us

was just listening to that song