Video: Clipse On CNN Tonight

[Midrash]

No Malice knows the feds watchin'

 

[No1]

Wow...the transformation of Malice is one of the most interesting treks of one hip hop personality I've seen in recent years.

"I feel like hip hop, personally, is the only genre that EATS it's babies. You can take a white kid, or the white generation...they're enjoying hip hop, and eating it up, and paying for it and LOVING it! BUT THEY"RE NOT KILLING EACH OTHER



5 star post @JordanWearinThe45

and he was 100% right :2wow:

No, he isn't. His heart is in the right place though, But hip hop is very far down the list of things that causes people to do what they do and suffer what they suffer. He needs to stop and think about why white kids consume music at the same rate, but aren't dying over it and then realize the conditions that they in and the structure in place...and think about why it doesn't exist in the black community.

I'm all for saying hip hop has a lot of negative messages, but doing stuff like this is just people trying to be sociologists without the qualifications to do so. You need to think about why someone is supposedly so susceptible to doing what a rapper says anyway....if that is the case. But then you'd have to explain why when rap was at its most positive, violence in urban communities was at its peak. There really isn't any indicative correlation between the landscape of rap music and violence and the sales of drugs in urban communities. Hip Hop is influential, but one's immediate surroundings are always more so. Hip Hop might make a certain type of drug the "in" thing, but more often than not, hip hop is promoting something that is already occurring independent of hip hop.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I was just disappoint to find out they was standing on the corner pumpining dime bags of crack.

I thought they was Movin dem keys breh

 

[JasonSJackson]

Really good piece, no surprise it wasn't a "hip hop media outlet" doing it. Cacplex rather do a 100 slide "story" on Kanye outfits @big business


Respect no malice

exactly

it takes outsiders to step in and do the interview that these monkey nikka rap publications and blogs should have done a long time ago...

 

[head shots101]

I was just disappoint to find out they was standing on the corner pumpining dime bags of crack.

I thought they was Movin dem keys breh

nikka most these drug lords in rap were only pumping nickle and dimes god

 

[louisvandross]

"& together as clipse, they quickly became the new favorites of hiphop illuminati" ?

 

[keond]

No, he isn't. His heart is in the right place though, But hip hop is very far down the list of things that causes people to do what they do and suffer what they suffer. He needs to stop and think about why white kids consume music at the same rate, but aren't dying over it and then realize the conditions that they in and the structure in place...and think about why it doesn't exist in the black community.

I'm all for saying hip hop has a lot of negative messages, but doing stuff like this is just people trying to be sociologists without the qualifications to do so. You need to think about why someone is supposedly so susceptible to doing what a rapper says anyway....if that is the case. But then you'd have to explain why when rap was at its most positive, violence in urban communities was at its peak. There really isn't any indicative correlation between the landscape of rap music and violence and the sales of drugs in urban communities. Hip Hop is influential, but one's immediate surroundings are always more so. Hip Hop might make a certain type of drug the "in" thing, but more often than not, hip hop is promoting something that is already occurring independent of hip hop.

I disagree. As i have gotten older i have come around on this issue.

The strong minded folks who know who they are aren't susceptible to be affected by the negative type music. But we got alot of weak minded kids who were raised not by parents but by entertainment. I have the perspective to have been a former teacher and see the affect that Lack of parental guidance plus trying to be like entertainers does on young black kids. Just like Malice said, white kids can listen to the music and go about their biz, but black kids that are LIVING in those environments dont have the tools or the foundation to not internalize it.

If rap stopped being made, would people stop selling dope and murdering? No of course not, but I think the at this point the seeds have already been sowed. We are seeing the fruits of 20 years of negativity + the social environment. I had students who couldn't go 2 words without quoting a rap lyric, they were totally immersed. I wish they could quote their lessons like that.......and their lies the fukkin problem.

 

[Billy Ocean]

No, he isn't. His heart is in the right place though, But hip hop is very far down the list of things that causes people to do what they do and suffer what they suffer. He needs to stop and think about why white kids consume music at the same rate, but aren't dying over it and then realize the conditions that they in and the structure in place...and think about why it doesn't exist in the black community.

I'm all for saying hip hop has a lot of negative messages, but doing stuff like this is just people trying to be sociologists without the qualifications to do so. You need to think about why someone is supposedly so susceptible to doing what a rapper says anyway....if that is the case. But then you'd have to explain why when rap was at its most positive, violence in urban communities was at its peak. There really isn't any indicative correlation between the landscape of rap music and violence and the sales of drugs in urban communities. Hip Hop is influential, but one's immediate surroundings are always more so. Hip Hop might make a certain type of drug the "in" thing, but more often than not, hip hop is promoting something that is already occurring independent of hip hop.

Not once...not once..did he say that hip hop was the SOLE cause for impoverished Black and Brown youth killing each other in the hoods of the U.S. I'm sure he understands that the environment that Blacks are in are what makes them more susceptible to be influenced by the negative images portrayed in hip hop music. You're speculating. And he doesn't have to be a qualified sociologist to speak on what he believes on and why it led him to choose the path he's on right now. You're really taking a much more cerebral approach to what he stated in this interview than needed.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

nikka most these drug lords in rap were only pumping nickle and dimes god

yeah i know that none of these nyggas were drug lords. the Kingpin era died when these nikkas was toddlers. supreme, rich and po, nicky barnes and them nikkas is a thing of the past but damn they music is so believable

 

[mortuus est]

No Malice knows the feds watchin'

when his like i cant say all this, this is cnn

and the guy is like c'mon u did this in your youth, u cant get in trouble, tell your story, u did it in your raps, right?

 

[No1]

Not once...not once..did he say that hip hop was the SOLE cause for impoverished Black and Brown youth killing each other in the hoods of the U.S. I'm sure he understands that the environment that Blacks are in are what makes them more susceptible to be influenced by the negative images portrayed in hip hop music. You're speculating. And he doesn't have to be a qualified sociologist to speak on what he believes on and why it led him to chose the path he's on right now. You're really taking a much more cerebral approach to what he stated in this interview than needed.

He said he was killing people, and that he has enough blood on his hands. No one said he needs to be sociologist to speak on what he believes. I said he's not qualified to make that analysis because he's not one. Also, it takes the attention off the greater problem. That's all I'll say to you because I know where this type of argument goes.

I disagree. As i have gotten older i have come around on this issue.

The strong minded folks who know who they are aren't susceptible to be affected by the negative type music. But we got alot of weak minded kids who were raised not by parents but by entertainment. I have the perspective to have been a former teacher and see the affect that Lack of parental guidance plus trying to be like entertainers does on young black kids. Just like Malice said, white kids can listen to the music and go about their biz, but black kids that are LIVING in those environments dont have the tools or the foundation to not internalize it.

If rap stopped being made, would people stop selling dope and murdering? No of course not, but I think the at this point the seeds have already been sowed. We are seeing the fruits of 20 years of negativity + the social environment. I had students who couldn't go 2 words without quoting a rap lyric, they were totally immersed. I wish they could quote their lessons like that.......and their lies the fukkin problem.

For one, I don't know if I was an especially strong-minded kid, but the people around me were (parents and older relatives). The strongest point you made, is the one I've always made. If you're going to blame anything on rap, it's that they have a lot of people who listen to them who for many other reasons besides rap are susceptible to taking their messages to heart and they don't acknowledge that. That's fine. I'm okay with saying that. But, the bigger point still stands. Hip Hop is far down the list of the reasons for why things are the way they are and I say that while thinking most rap is garbage right now. You're speculating, I'm speaking on data regarding human capital, inadequate healthcare, the prison industrial complex, racist zoning laws, lack of jobs, structural racism, acecss to weapons, etc. I can literally quantify everything I just stated. You cannot.

Think about what you're saying, you are admitting that white kids can go about their business despite the fact that absorb rap music as much as black kids. You are ADMITTING that there is an ingrained problem aside from the music. Now think about why white kids who are shown to be no less susceptible to media influences are not immersed in the more negative aspects of urban culture. It is because of the entire community and society around them and everything else that comes with it. What do you mean by the seeds have been sowed... The crime rate is down all over the country in comparison to the 80s and early 90s when it was at its peak. Most young kids can recite lyrics to songs better than they can their lessons, that sounds like something my parents used to say. I get it, the media has an outsized influenced on the youth....but all the high-achieving kids can quote those same lyrics too...you cannot seriously be sitting here that it makes more sense to be focusing on hip hop as why poor black kids get a poor education as opposed to resegregation, lack of quality teachers, lack of an educational foundation at a young age (we're cutting HeadStart programs), etc.

If you took care of all of the things that I mentioned in this post that have a quantifiable and tested impact on the lives of inner city black children, then you'd hardly have to worry about rap music guiding them anywhere. You're right people are impressionable, but if it wasn't rap (if it was rap) then a million other things would have led that person astray. You think Chief Keef wouldn't be Chief Keef if everyone rapped like Common on Be...come on man...you know better. You know better.

 

[Billy Ocean]

He said he was killing people, and that he has enough blood on his hands. No one said he needs to be sociologist to speak on what he believes. I said he's not qualified to make that analysis because he's not one. Also, it takes the attention off the greater problem. That's all I'll say to you because I know where this type of argument goes.



For one, I don't know if I was an especially strong-minded kid, but the people around me were (parents and older relatives). The strongest point you made, is the one I've always made. If you're going to blame anything on rap, it's that they have a lot of people who listen to them who for many other reasons besides rap are susceptible to taking their messages to heart and they don't acknowledge that. That's fine. I'm okay with saying that. But, the bigger point still stands. Hip Hop is far down the list of the reasons for why things are the way they are and I say that while thinking most rap is garbage right now. You're speculating, I'm speaking on data regarding human capital, inadequate healthcare, the prison industrial complex, racist zoning laws, lack of jobs, structural racism, acecss to weapons, etc. I can literally quantify everything I just stated. You cannot.

Think about what you're saying, you are admitting that white kids can go about their business despite the fact that absorb rap music as much as black kids. You are ADMITTING that there is an ingrained problem aside from the music. Now think about why white kids who are shown to be no less susceptible to media influences are not immersed in the more negative aspects of urban culture. It is because of the entire community and society around them and everything else that comes with it. What do you mean by the seeds have been sowed... The crime rate is down all over the country in comparison to the 80s and early 90s when it was at its peak. Most young kids can recite lyrics to songs better than they can their lessons, that sounds like something my parents used to say. I get it, the media has an outsized influenced on the youth....but all the high-achieving kids can quote those same lyrics too...you cannot seriously be sitting here that it makes more sense to be focusing on hip hop as why poor black kids get a poor education as opposed to resegregation, lack of quality teachers, lack of an educational foundation at a young age (we're cutting HeadStart programs), etc.

If you took care of all of the things that I mentioned in this post that have a quantifiable and tested impact on the lives of inner city black children, then you'd hardly have to worry about rap music guiding them anywhere. You're right people are impressionable, but if it wasn't rap (if it was rap) then a million other things would have led that person astray. You think Chief Keef wouldn't be Chief Keef if everyone rapped like Common on Be...come on man...you know better. You know better.

Breh, NOBODY, including Malice in this video, stated that hip hop was the sole cause of what's going on in black neighborhoods. Which point in the video did he state that? Which poster in this thread state that?

 

[keond]

He said he was killing people, and that he has enough blood on his hands. No one said he needs to be sociologist to speak on what he believes. I said he's not qualified to make that analysis because he's not one. Also, it takes the attention off the greater problem. That's all I'll say to you because I know where this type of argument goes.



For one, I don't know if I was an especially strong-minded kid, but the people around me were (parents and older relatives). The strongest point you made, is the one I've always made. If you're going to blame anything on rap, it's that they have a lot of people who listen to them who for many other reasons besides rap are susceptible to taking their messages to heart and they don't acknowledge that. That's fine. I'm okay with saying that. But, the bigger point still stands. Hip Hop is far down the list of the reasons for why things are the way they are and I say that while thinking most rap is garbage right now. You're speculating, I'm speaking on data regarding human capital, inadequate healthcare, the prison industrial complex, racist zoning laws, lack of jobs, structural racism, acecss to weapons, etc. I can literally quantify everything I just stated. You cannot.

Think about what you're saying, you are admitting that white kids can go about their business despite the fact that absorb rap music as much as black kids. You are ADMITTING that there is an ingrained problem aside from the music. Now think about why white kids who are shown to be no less susceptible to media influences are not immersed in the more negative aspects of urban culture. It is because of the entire community and society around them and everything else that comes with it. What do you mean by the seeds have been sowed... The crime rate is down all over the country in comparison to the 80s and early 90s when it was at its peak. Most young kids can recite lyrics to songs better than they can their lessons, that sounds like something my parents used to say. I get it, the media has an outsized influenced on the youth....but all the high-achieving kids can quote those same lyrics too...you cannot seriously be sitting here that it makes more sense to be focusing on hip hop as why poor black kids get a poor education as opposed to resegregation, lack of quality teachers, lack of an educational foundation at a young age (we're cutting HeadStart programs), etc.

If you took care of all of the things that I mentioned in this post that have a quantifiable and tested impact on the lives of inner city black children, then you'd hardly have to worry about rap music guiding them anywhere. You're right people are impressionable, but if it wasn't rap (if it was rap) then a million other things would have led that person astray. You think Chief Keef wouldn't be Chief Keef if everyone rapped like Common on Be...come on man...you know better. You know better.

I wish i had time to really go in on this, but I have to head out in a sec, I will say that the whole Chief Keef vs Common is a fallacy because in american society of course people are going to gravitate towards negativity. Who is Keefs influence? Gucci and them. There is nothing to indicate that Keef has an ounce of positivity in him. If everyone was rapping like Common they would literally invent a Keef. Thats the way things are. No one wants to emulate introspective kind hearted people when they are 15-17 years old. Most young ass ppl are going to gravitate to what they think is "real". Pushin dope and murdering nikkas. In a ideal world, kids would look up to people who are trying to do go in the world, but they dont. The coli and most websites eat up this Chiraq type shyt because at the end of the day they either are detached economically or have enough sense to not take the shyt serious......and least be honest, most are cacs. Cacs been entertained by "savages" since they started robbing Africa. The kids that are in the trap is the ones that are suffering, they have zero margin for era and cant fall back on white privilege. They rather listen to demonic music by nikkas old enough to be they pops.......We got a multi millionaire been filthy rich for two decades 40 year old nikka, and a 37 year old millionaire on a song with another 30 year old millionaire talkin about "young nikka move that dope" ......negativity sells and these old ass nikkas should be ashamed of themselves. Grow up, they poison. Yea economic factors and society has dealt a awful hand to some young blk kids, but you cant tell me this music is helping.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Watching now

nice video. I disagree slightly with Malice about the race issue but I salute him for having a positive impact now.

 

[CELL]

Never understood the reasoning behind No Malice changing so drastically but everything from the way he talks, to the way he dresses has completely changed.

Even if you're not religious money just isn't the be all and end all. When YOU feel like you're not doing society a favour, you switch it up.