Video: Jay Z - Tidal B-Sides Freestyle *Bodies the music industry*

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I am not pro or against any company... i'm pro the best option for me

i fukks with hip hop and i fukks with jigga, but if they think im gonna pay MORE for a streaming service just cos its part owned by (hip hop) artists then they lost they damn minds... nicca i got responsibilities, i dont give a fukk where my money goes as long as im getting a good service at a good price

same way clowns probably coppin that ace of spades or ciroc... nah b, im skraight with smirnoff, fukk paying extra to maintain an image

the typical juvenile response "you broke b"... nah son, my paper straight but ill be damned if im wasting it cos of hip hop marketeers

i dont mind if apple gets rich off me because in my OPINION, the iphone is the best option for me. i cant find something better (in my opinion) for the same price. but to me, spotify is better and cheaper than tidal.

You aren't paying more though :dahell: this was cleared up several weeks back :dahell:
if you're paying for spotify premium it costs the same amount as Tidal's non Hi fi option.

I'm not looking at it as a "Hip Hop" thing because Tidal is a platform for more than Hip Hop music.

"It's better" is all opinion at this point and I'd say that's where the discussion stops despite
Tidal offering objectively more than spotify does :ld:
 

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dope verse, but he's been the media darling for damn near 20 years. the one time it doesn't work so well for him, he comes out mentioning himself in the same breath as people murdered by cops. gtfoh. I joined tidal before he even owned it and it was :huhldup: and canceled my subscription. if it sucks it sucks. make your service better (which is what he's sort of doing with the live performance) rather than crying fowl the one time you didnt come out on top.
 

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dope verse, but he's been the media darling for damn near 20 years. the one time it doesn't work so well for him, he comes out mentioning himself in the same breath as people murdered by cops. gtfoh. I joined tidal before he even owned it and it was :huhldup: and canceled my subscription. if it sucks it sucks. make your service better (which is what he's sort of doing with the live performance) rather than crying fowl the one time you didnt come out on top.

:wtf:

When?

Where?
 

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:sas2::sas1:

It was alright but he is on the offensive here. I've yet to see a commercial or any million-dollar campaign to knock off Tidal.
 

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dope verse, but he's been the media darling for damn near 20 years. the one time it doesn't work so well for him, he comes out mentioning himself in the same breath as people murdered by cops. gtfoh. I joined tidal before he even owned it and it was :huhldup: and canceled my subscription. if it sucks it sucks. make your service better (which is what he's sort of doing with the live performance) rather than crying fowl the one time you didnt come out on top.
Took the words right from my fingertips. Don't play the race card now! I doubt very seriously that the average consumer is factoring race into the equation when trying to decide if they should buy a Tidal subscription. :comeon:You've had a million wins and you finally take a L, if race was really a factor like that then you wouldn't have had the million wins to begin with. This freestyle is more of what people didn't like when Tidal launched. Like we the public are suppose to feel sorry for millionaire artist and their money. Like Madonna's streaming royalty rate is suppose to motivate me to come out my damn pocket. :francis: FOH! Some of these stars is really out of touch with the common man, they need a reality check and I don't mean like Rich Dollaz.

Tidal would of gotten off to a bigger start had it actually been promoted and explained properly instead of them thinking they could just use their star power and the public would buy into it.

:ufdup:
^This doesn't even tell you that Tidal is a streaming music service for God's sake. It doesn't show a user interface, any benefits of the service, no price of the service, why it's better than the rest, literally nothing.:what:


The verse was on point though :ehh: but he did sound like Lux. This free will get people talking but I don't think it will make them subscribe. Go back to the drawing board and launch a new marketing campaign instead of whining about first week sales numbers through freestyles and tweets.
 

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Took the words right from my fingertips. Don't play the race card now! I doubt very seriously that the average consumer is factoring race into the equation when trying to decide if they should buy a Tidal subscription. :comeon:You've had a million wins and you finally take a L, if race was really a factor like that then you wouldn't have had the million wins to begin with. This freestyle is more of what people didn't like when Tidal launched. Like we the public are suppose to feel sorry for millionaire artist and their money. Like Madonna's streaming royalty rate is suppose to motivate me to come out my damn pocket. :francis: FOH! Some of these stars is really out of touch with the common man, they need a reality check and I don't mean like Rich Dollaz.

Tidal would of gotten off to a bigger start had it actually been promoted and explained properly instead of them thinking they could just use their star power and the public would buy into it.

:ufdup:
^This doesn't even tell you that Tidal is a streaming music service for God's sake. It doesn't show a user interface, any benefits of the service, no price of the service, why it's better than the rest, literally nothing.:what:


The verse was on point though :ehh: but he did sound like Lux. This free will get people talking but I don't think it will make them subscribe. Go back to the drawing board and launch a new marketing campaign instead of whining about first week sales numbers through freestyles and tweets.

What you miss in all of this is that Tidal had admitted to launch mistakes, but he's talking about the media. Like his CEO said, "They never expected the media would fill in the blanks for them. They planned on doing numerous presentations to continue the roll out and keep the momentum." It was clearly their strategy to do that in the absence of a large corporate budget.
 

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As black people we always do this, we snap back when we are reminded that when done got to comfortable and them white people have to remind us they really control this game. :ufdup:

We start talking to our people (since honestly we determine whats hot in america)


I aint made at J but its always :pachaha: too see nikka's do this once they get up there and get shut out when they thought were pass such barriers.


Anyway that freestyle was :scust: in such a :banderas: way


Rare current day footage of why J is one of the best to do it.
 

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Hov traded trust for dollars long time ago. He shouldn't be mad when people look at him sideways for whatever mediocre product he's marketing.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were Tidal hit-pieces out there. This is business after all, and media has never been more cozy with big business as it is today. So yeah there are guys on payroll shytting on Jay-Z. But it's 'all in the game.' Jigga says he's the consummate businessman/mental chess player. So why should he be surprised or even mad about it?

It's just business.
 

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are the lyrics up to read ? dap and rep.

http://genius.com/Jay-z-tidal-freestyle-lyrics

So I’m the bad guy now I hear, because I don’t go with the flow
Don’t ever go with the flow, be the flow
And I don’t need no middle man to talk to my nikkas
I understand if you don’t understand, I figure I’m Jigga
That’s where we differ
I take what’s mine, you accept what they they give you, I get you

I don’t take no checks I take my respect
Pharrell even told me go with the safest bet
Jimmy Iovine offered a safety net
Google dangled around a crazy check
I feel like Youtube is the biggest culprit
Them nikkas pay you a tenth of what you supposed to get

You know nikkas die for equal pay right?
You know when I work I ain't your slave right?
You know I ain't shucking and jiving and high fiving
You know this ain't back in the days right?
But I can't tell, like the way they killed Gray right
Shot down Mike Brown how they did Tray right?

Let them continue choking nikkas
We gonna turn style, I ain't your token nikka
You know I came in this game independent right?
Tidal, my own lane, same difference
Oh nikkas is skeptical as their own shyt
You bought 9 iPhones and Steve Jobs is rich
Phil Knight worth trillions you still bought those kicks

Spotify is 9 million they ain't say shyt
Lucy you got some splaining to do
The only one they hating on look the same as you
I know they trying to bamboozle you
Spending millions on media trying to confuse you
I had to talk to myself, Hov you used to it
It's politics as usual
 
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