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1) Illiterate but somehow was able to trasncribe the most complex Arabic ever known to man. How?
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Anyways I respect the last sentence of the later post.
Viewpoint: Islamophobia has a long history in the US
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Anyways I respect the last sentence of the later post.
As in I heard some Arab cats talking about how complex the writing in the Quran is, even for Arabic language scholars. Hard for an illiterate man to write like that. Muslims believe that God gave him the verses, which he simply transcribed.
1) Illiterate but somehow was able to trasncribe the most complex Arabic ever known to man. How?
2)That's a new one, I had to look up this 9 year old marriage thing:
"Historical research establishes that Hadhrat Aisha was in fact ten years old at the time of her nikah which took place two years before Hijrah. Her marriage was not consummated until the third year after Hijrah making her about fifteen years old when the marriage was consummated. To be married at the age of fifteen during the time of the Holy Prophet (saw), and under the hot climate of Arabia, was not at all out of the ordinary. At the age of fifteen it was common for girls of the Arabian peninsular to mature to the age of puberty and begin married life"
3) Horribly violent? Yeah well the world was at that time too
According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated.[10][11][12][13][14][23] For example, Sahih al-Bukhari, considered by many Sunni Muslims as the most authentic book after Qur'an, states:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64
Some traditional sources disagree. Ibn Hisham wrote in his biography of Muhammad that she may have been ten years old at the consummation.[11] Ibn Khallikan, as well as Ibn Sa'd al-Baghdadi citing Hisham ibn Urwah, record that she was nine years old at marriage, and twelve at consummation.[24] Author Sadakat Kadri points out that the recording of Aisha's age by Ibn Sa'd and Bukhari (though the hadith was Sahih) came a couple of centuries after the Prophet's death.[25]
And the time may have been violent, but there are religious texts that aren't encouraging such violent aggression, while composed during violent times. The problem is it's still causing ass backward Muslims to wreak havoc on the world today, almost 1500 years after it was created.
Religious people constantly cry about context, but it's not like the text is saying "love one another" and that verse is being misinterpreted as "cut off heads and stick them on pikes in the name of Allah."
Islam is dangerous and will be the cause of World War 3.
According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated.[10][11][12][13][14][23] For example, Sahih al-Bukhari, considered by many Sunni Muslims as the most authentic book after Qur'an, states:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64
Some traditional sources disagree. Ibn Hisham wrote in his biography of Muhammad that she may have been ten years old at the consummation.[11] Ibn Khallikan, as well as Ibn Sa'd al-Baghdadi citing Hisham ibn Urwah, record that she was nine years old at marriage, and twelve at consummation.[24] Author Sadakat Kadri points out that the recording of Aisha's age by Ibn Sa'd and Bukhari (though the hadith was Sahih) came a couple of centuries after the Prophet's death.[25]
And the time may have been violent, but there are religious texts that aren't encouraging such violent aggression, while composed during violent times. The problem is it's still causing ass backward Muslims to wreak havoc on the world today, almost 1500 years after it was created.
Religious people constantly cry about context, but it's not like the text is saying "love one another" and that verse is being misinterpreted as "cut off heads and stick them on pikes in the name of Allah."
Islam is dangerous and will be the cause of World War 3.
You're right that it's being misinterpreted, which is the cause of some serious problems in the world today. Most Muslims agree with you. The country of Saudi Arabia is the biggest example with blatant human rights atrocities, yet you Americans constantly suck them off.
Who sucks off Saudi Arabia besides a handful of politicians who have power in this country?
If the Saudis didn't have oil and consequently, weren't strategic interests in the region against even crazier countries, we would have been there on 9/12/01.
I think most of the people misinterpreting the Quran are moderate Muslims. Any time there is an explicitly horrible verse that has no place in 21st century society, it's "context", "translation issues", "misinterpretation".
If God was so great, He should have reduced ambiguity.
88m3
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Who sucks off Saudi Arabia besides a handful of politicians who have power in this country?
If the Saudis didn't have oil and consequently, weren't strategic interests in the region against even crazier countries, we would have been there on 9/12/01.
I think most of the people misinterpreting the Quran are moderate Muslims. Any time there is an explicitly horrible verse that has no place in 21st century society, it's "context", "translation issues", "misinterpretation".
If God was so great, He should have reduced ambiguity.
The ambiguity exists because it's the ONLY scripture that hasn't been modified since it dropped however many centuries ago. So you HAVE to interpret it to contextualize it in today's day and age.
Christians have been low key modifying the Testaments, to suit their leaderships goals. Maybe that's why it comes across as less violent to you guys. You don't see dudes quoting the Old Testament because I'm sure it talked about slavery and all the bad shyt that was happening back then too
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You've never read the Bible?And you've never read the Q'u'r'a'n?And yet you're in here telling people what to think about them?
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the same way joseph smith was able to read what was on the golden plates1) Illiterate but somehow was able to trasncribe the most complex Arabic ever known to man. How?
no, seriously
Translations not modifications...
the prophets of the new testament were using the old testament.......