Vlad TV interview with The Clipse former manager Anthony "Geezy" Gonzalez
- Thread starter FreshAIG
- Start date
International S.
"He never had the makings of a varsity athlete"
stand up guys
I hate fukking rats. Big Daddy also had ties to BMF and he had his area none the wiser with his operation. They had him on the fukking news about his restaurant. That's all they thought he was until this rat told. Sad shyt.
murksiderock
Superstar
Does anyone have a link or access to the info that shows he told on Big Daddy or anyone else?
@murksiderock
When you are really working heavy, there is always debt and losses, you are constantly short on a load, or on the previous one, if one get seized, you may owe partial or full for that, depending on the arrangement with the supplier. It's just cost of business.
What happens is you build a life for your self, and sometimes family, and if you were to just STOP even with a little bankroll, your life would financially unravel in about 6 months, if you can't match the income.
When you are really working heavy, there is always debt and losses, you are constantly short on a load, or on the previous one, if one get seized, you may owe partial or full for that, depending on the arrangement with the supplier. It's just cost of business.
What happens is you build a life for your self, and sometimes family, and if you were to just STOP even with a little bankroll, your life would financially unravel in about 6 months, if you can't match the income.
murksiderock
Superstar
His indictment sounds like he was fronted off work, though. Which I wouldn't understand because he perceivably had the money to buy whatever he was selling...so either he actually didn't have the money people thought he had, he was bad with his investments and profits, or a combination of both...
Being short is one thing, losing shyt etc, that isn't unusual. I'm not accepting shyt that I can't pay for, he had people flying to Virginia coming to collect. That's hustling backwards, and it also sounds like he lost money on investments like restaurants and the club and whatever else...
So the point I was getting at was he got increasingly sloppy. It's hard to slow down and breathe, I understand that part, but when I walked away I walked away without owing anybody anything, because I wasn't accepting anything off credit. And he didn't appear to have an endgame, he had at least one police officer on the team and still couldn't come up with an exit strategy. Guess it just all comes down to greed!
That's just how the game goes, very few have the money they are perceived to, esp. in that life. And, yeah, the investments, you try to make a few moves, in the legit world, but the start up costs are higher and profits way lower, so you can lose, in a 6 month time period, what you just made in the last 9 months, and then have to double down to get it back.
Sounds like you kept it simple and neat, and that's the right way, but when you are moving work like he was (which isn't anywhere near the top, but mid level trafficker) it gets messy. You have factions of people working under you, internal feuds, shifting loyalties, and suppliers is another thing. You may start paying off one with another's money, when you take a loss, and then find another, and open up a line of credit there. It gets messy, by definition. You need methods to move the money back to sources of supply, you need to bring the work TO where you are, or the points don't work.
Seen my friends up close go through this, where you end up a few hundred thousand in debt, off a bad 60 day run.
Sounds like you kept it simple and neat, and that's the right way, but when you are moving work like he was (which isn't anywhere near the top, but mid level trafficker) it gets messy. You have factions of people working under you, internal feuds, shifting loyalties, and suppliers is another thing. You may start paying off one with another's money, when you take a loss, and then find another, and open up a line of credit there. It gets messy, by definition. You need methods to move the money back to sources of supply, you need to bring the work TO where you are, or the points don't work.
Seen my friends up close go through this, where you end up a few hundred thousand in debt, off a bad 60 day run.
murksiderock
Superstar
Nah I've mentioned before I took some L's, losses happen at every level. I wouldn't necessarily say I was particularly neat, but a few times I had the option of getting coke, weed, and pills fronted to me----I remember a guy I admired who was about 10 years older than me, told me back in prison in '09 (so I was 19-20 and he was around the age I am now), to never accept anything you can't pay for, and keep your network of associates small...
So I guess that just stuck with me. I never wanted to be this major figure but of course I did want more money than I actually made lol...
For sure I know he wasn't at the top, but the average brother in the hood dealing doesn't have $500 cash. I'd disagree with calling him mid-level, but I also looked at dealing on a macro scale, relative to our population. The same way black families have lower household and per capital income, and net worth, than other demographics; like in common terms people think there's a ton of black millionaires/millionaire families, and there's more like only ~50,000 black millionaires in a nation where there's 40 million of us....Geezy and cats like him are in the 1-5% of black dealers, every hood might have one or two guys like him, maybe a couple more depending on the size of a neighborhood...
It definitely ain't like the average black dealer has that kind of money, so I'd consider him near the top of the food chain FOR US, though nowhere near the top in general...
murksiderock
Superstar
@re'up
We had a chain at one point pulling in trees from Sacramento to Atlanta. I wasn't involved in the cross-country, bit I was involved in funneling weed from Atlanta into the Carolinas. So I'm familiar with the risks and costs on that level, we had a pretty good thing going, and for my part I only paid for what I could afford. I wasn't letting cats drop loads on me I didn't have the ability to really get off or pay for, and those opportunities were definitely available because of 1)the amount of ships we were bringing across, they had to be sold, and 2)I had relationships with these guys from back on the coast...
We had a chain at one point pulling in trees from Sacramento to Atlanta. I wasn't involved in the cross-country, bit I was involved in funneling weed from Atlanta into the Carolinas. So I'm familiar with the risks and costs on that level, we had a pretty good thing going, and for my part I only paid for what I could afford. I wasn't letting cats drop loads on me I didn't have the ability to really get off or pay for, and those opportunities were definitely available because of 1)the amount of ships we were bringing across, they had to be sold, and 2)I had relationships with these guys from back on the coast...
Yeah, I wasn't qualifying by race, but if I was, guys like Beech, T, Greg Petties would be considered the top, Meech's lil homies, who were workers like Omari Mckree, aka O-Dog, they were getting 10-20 bricks at a time. But. Geezy was working. He was trying to get there. I think Meech ordered like 500 a month, in two shipments of 250, or something like that. The Flores Twins out of Chicago, did like 1500 a month, but Southwest T took at least 250 for his operations, if not 500. It doesn't get bigger then that in the US. And that was in the good era, now it's coming back, but people don't want to move 1000 at a time, it's too risky, and costs too much.
I get what you are saying, but if one CAN take the work out, and you are trying to move up, if you can knock 25 bricks, but only pay for 5, and the source will give you the credit, it's an easy answer. Doesn't mean it will always work out right, but it's the easiest method to the top, and to get your own investment capital up. So, the next one you CAN pay for 10.
edit: Greg Petties
CRAIG Petties
I get what you are saying, but if one CAN take the work out, and you are trying to move up, if you can knock 25 bricks, but only pay for 5, and the source will give you the credit, it's an easy answer. Doesn't mean it will always work out right, but it's the easiest method to the top, and to get your own investment capital up. So, the next one you CAN pay for 10.
edit: Greg Petties
CRAIG Petties
Last edited: