Wack 100 and another west coast lady were on clubhouse talking about Tupac.

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We are talking about all the dumb things he did post jail. From claiming MOb publicly to jumping a well known hitta. He didn’t understand his environment.

Kefee D and his nephew were not to be played with according to all accounts of what happened. Suge knew they were some thorough dudes from the Southside. If Pac understood his environment, he wouldn’t have swung on Orlando over a cheap ass Death Row chain that Suge was giving to all the goons.
Do u realize the targets were Pac and Suge right? Do u think they was just targeting low level nikkas? Pac and Suge was the ultimate goal in the bounty. So of course Pac gonna feel a way. He should NOT have swung on dude himself but that’s how Pac has been since literally forever. He was doing wild shyt like that as a roadie wit DU. Difference then was that the people around cared enough to stop him and reel him in. Suge was attracted to how wild Pac was and just let him do whatever. It’s easy to speak on all this shyt from the outside and not from the perspective of a nikka going thru mad turmoil.
 

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Pac was fukkin wit the crew(DR) and the affiliations that helped him get outta jail and who had a common enemy. Not very hard to understand. U acting like what Pac was doing was for no reason rather than stemming from real danger on his life he was put in. Did he make the best decisions? fukk nah. But the shyt had reasons and It wasn’t to be a poser. It was to gain power and have backing.


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Do u realize the targets were Pac and Suge right? Do u think they was just targeting low level nikkas? Pac and Suge was the ultimate goal in the bounty. So of course Pac gonna feel a way. He should NOT have swung on dude himself but that’s how Pac has been since literally forever. He was doing wild shyt like that as a roadie wit DU. Difference then was that the people around cared enough to stop him and reel him in. Suge was attracted to how wild Pac was and just let him do whatever. It’s easy to speak on all this shyt from the outside and not from the perspective of a nikka going thru mad turmoil.

That's all I have been saying. He was doing dumb shyt in an environment he didn't completely understand. Just like he was doing dumb shyt in NY in an environment he didn't completely understand.

I don't hate Pac. He's number 4 on my list. I put him ahead of Big.
 

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That's all I have been saying. He was doing dumb shyt in an environment he didn't completely understand. Just like he was doing dumb shyt in NY in an environment he didn't completely understand.

I don't hate Pac. He's number 4 on my list. I put him ahead of Big.
It’s not about hating Pac. I don’t think u hate Pac. Pac was doing dumb shyt but it wasn’t cause he didn’t understand it was because he was a hot head who reacted before thinking sometimes. For some weird reason people blame Suge for putting a battery in his back not realizing they put the battery in each others back. Pac been moving around in Cali helping nikkas get they jewelry back from gang nikkas n all that and this is before DR. Pac was just a loose cannon at times who didn’t think before doing shyt sometimes and there’s nikkas who been in that environment they whole life that lost they life off that same compulsion. Street nikkas don’t have a high life expectancy brodie. Lol
 

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Yea. The both ended up in the dirt based on it. One alluding to it and bragging on the radio about a Murder and running around with the set that committed ain’t going too far apparently. Lol. U nikkas man. Pac didn’t attack Baby Lane cause he was Crip. He attacked him because he was HIRED by Bad Boy to rob his people. And had already attempted to one time already.
pac shouldn’t have swung on a cold blooded killer Period regaurdless what his reason was …. Pac wasn’t on that level and should have stayed in his lane …. Puffy and zip if u want to add him in there since he was the one who suggested badboy use southside as muscle on the west was a bad idea I won’t deny that but am talking about alll the stuff mentioned which … pac was extra all the time in anything he did and especially on that gang -stuff …. Like I said I never heard big or pufff shouting out southside , or getting southside tattto or jumpin southside Rival … pac took it to another level for a rap artist ….I already said it was stupid for badboy to go to l.a 6 month after pac death cause it came across as taunting since pac dead suge in prison they basically set them selfs up to be open targets and they weren’t even using southside as muscle they just met up with them at the basketball game the day off the murder or day before …. I always said badboy was playing a dangerous game especially after pac died if they wanted any chance of living they should have waited a few years …… but some where between pac dying and suge gettin sentenced I guess suge made a decision in his head that either biggie or puffy we’re not gona live …..
 
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We are talking about all the dumb things he did post jail. From claiming MOb publicly to jumping a well known hitta. He didn’t understand his environment.

Kefee D and his nephew were not to be played with according to all accounts of what happened. Suge knew they were some thorough dudes from the Southside. If Pac understood his environment, he wouldn’t have swung on Orlando over a cheap ass Death Row chain that Suge was giving to all the goons.
Don’t believe every word keffe Dee says either …. I believe mob James over keffe Dee …. Keffe Dee wasn’t even built like that himself ….now his nephew and his little crew yeah they were a bunch of killers …. Mob James said he seen keffe Dee and his son ( mob James is coool with keffe Dee son ) mob James said keffe Dee wouldn’t even get out the car … he’s called him out multiple times saying he isn’t this big thug he makes himself out to be … he always just gives props to baby lane for been with the bizzz but never keffe Dee … keffe Dee was like suge in a sense only diff is keffe deee was like the leader and grew up in the sandbox in southside…. But other then that they both had a crew they could sick on nikkas to kill if they wanted to …..
 

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Don’t believe every word keffe Dee says either …. I believe mob James over keffe Dee …. Keffe Dee wasn’t even built like that himself ….now his nephew and his little crew yeah they were a bunch of killers …. Mob James said he seen keffe Dee and his son ( mob James is coool with keffe Dee son ) mob James said keffe Dee wouldn’t even get out the car … he’s called him out multiple times saying he isn’t this big thug he makes himself out to be … he always just gives props to baby lane for been with the bizzz but never keffe Dee … keffe Dee was like suge in a sense only diff is keffe deee was like the leader and grew up in the sandbox in southside…. But other then that they both had a crew they could sick on nikkas to kill if they wanted to …..
Bro I got no problem wit u as a poster but the problem u and alotta people have is y’all believe all of these sociopathic attention craving nikkas over Pac and then y’all end up having to regroup and change y’all stance because it turns out nikkas be lying in some type of way shape or form. Lol.
 

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I guess the LA nikkas who was actually involved in the situation and knew Pac didn’t understand LA either then. Cause it’s plenty that disagree with ur stance.

stop Stanley. You jump click to click out here you already looked at as suspect out here.
 

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I don’t think Pac was “naive” he was idealistic in the sense that he really believed in the teachings of Black Panther knowledge and brotherhood and his lineage of having Afeni as his mother would enable him to transcend “streetcodes” and I believe he actually had some level of success doing that in the Thug Life era connecting with different gangs from all over.

He then realized with the Henchman/Jack drama that some dudes don’t honor or care about whatever lineage Pac came from and he admitted that mistake in his phonecall with Monster Kody later on.

After that it seems like Pac went from an idealist to a Machiavellian which is an 180 degree change in terms of the worldview and became more jaded and nihilistic. He vowed to get his money up and get his revenge but got caught slippin in Vegas and met his demise. Maybe he was trying to balance the idealistic and Machiavellian sides better because towards the end of his life he was preparing the One Nation project which in and of itself a project based on an idealistic premise but probably be funded and promoted by the money he got from his Machiavellian ways.

I don’t believe Pac became affiliated with the bloods because it was some cool shyt to do. He thought it was a means to an end, a tool for a larger end goal but it was an incredibly fine line to walk on and as a young dude with temper, he made the wrong decision to personally step up to Orlando that fateful night.
 

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Bro I got no problem wit u as a poster but the problem u and alotta people have is y’all believe all of these sociopathic attention craving nikkas over Pac and then y’all end up having to regroup and change y’all stance because it turns out nikkas be lying in some type of way shape or form. Lol.
Am talking about how keffe Dee be going on in his interviews as if he the biggest toughest gangster to walk around …. And he wasn’t even a hitter from all accounts that was his nephew and Crew….
 
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