Wack100 Compares Biggie to Nipsey "He was not a legend when it came to music"

[Wacky D]

Younger generation aka young emo Cac’s

The face that juice wrld died and nobody cares proves Wack’s argument wrong..

okay. youre clearly trying to push another one of your weirdo agendas.

and I really don't care about YG, nipsey or juice wrld at all, so im not even gonna bother with this one.

ok.... i get it - like i said before your not gonna answer the question, because your statement about music being forced; doesn’t exist in reality

and YES.... that’s the difference between biggie & other rappers
biggie was able to sell his singles, other rappers couldn’t or at least couldn’t on his level, so i don’t even understand you saying keep that same energy...

media conditioning?
payola?
etc etc
are you five or are you just playing dumb??

so youre telling me that biggie is the only rapper that sold a bunch of singles?? especially when his peak year while alive was one of the most over-crowded years for smash hits??

im getting too old for this board.

when did selling the most album determine GOAT status ?
hammer & vanilla ice wasn’t even hip hop artists they were pop artists


you really gonna compare one of them.... having 4 solo albums before dying to the other having 1

actually, when hammer started going multi-plat, he was very much a hip-hop artist.

I wasn't comparing big & pac in that post. what the hell are you talking about?

I see that the quality of this thread done went to chit. im out.

 

[kingofnyc]

media conditioning?
payola?
etc etc
are you five or are you just playing dumb??

Even with all of that still doesn’t necessarily make fans or the people support and buy ones music Benzino is the perfect example of that in early 2000s he co owned the magazine called a hip-hop Bible and had all the money and backing and he still couldn’t get support & sell his music

so youre telling me that biggie is the only rapper that sold a bunch of singles?? especially when his peak year while alive was one of the most over-crowded years for smash hits??

im getting too old for this board.

I don’t understand why you’re so fixated on the singles topic the fact of the matter is no one has had the success and sold singles like biggie (im only talking real sales not this BS digital sales they have nowadays)

for instants I’ll even give you death row 1st 2 artist dre and snoop released 3 singles off their albums so that’s 6 singles in total
the result was 1 platinum and 3 gold

biggie released 3 singles off his 1st LP
the result was 2 platinum and 1 gold

with that being said dre & snoop were 2 of the biggest names in the history of hip hop back then

actually, when hammer started going multi-plat, he was very much a hip-hop artist.

I wasn't comparing big & pac in that post. what the hell are you talking about?

I see that the quality of this thread done went to chit. im out.

You clearly said there were people who never heard a biggie & pac LP before dying then all of sudden they’re GOATS

I’m not denying what you’ve heard I’m just saying The one with 4 solo LP’s Can be considered a legitimate argument the other one with a solo LP is a bit reaching

 

[Wacky D]

Even with all of that still doesn’t necessarily make fans or the people support and buy ones music Benzino is the perfect example of that in early 2000s he co owned the magazine called a hip-hop Bible and had all the money and backing and he still couldn’t get support & sell his music




I don’t understand why you’re so fixated on the singles topic the fact of the matter is no one has had the success and sold singles like biggie (im only talking real sales not this BS digital sales they have nowadays)

for instants I’ll even give you death row 1st 2 artist dre and snoop released 3 singles off their albums so that’s 6 singles in total
the result was 1 platinum and 3 gold

biggie released 3 singles off his 1st LP
the result was 2 platinum and 1 gold

with that being said dre & snoop were 2 of the biggest names in the history of hip hop back then




You clearly said there were people who never heard a biggie & pac LP before dying then all of sudden they’re GOATS

I’m not denying what you’ve heard I’m just saying The one with 4 solo LP’s Can be considered a legitimate argument the other one with a solo LP is a bit reaching

compare benzino having his own magazine ads to the bad boy payola under the laface/arista hype machine. don't even get me started on the posthumous biggie campaign.
and that's just the political side of it. don't even get me started on all the other chit.

im not fixated on the singles topic at all. YOURE THE ONE THAT KEPT BRINGING IT UP.
and lol @ that lazy ass argument you just put up after all that barking.

I didn't say there were people who never HEARD a biggie or pac album(altho that is very much true as well). I said there were tons of people who didn't OWN an album from either of them. two different things, but its cool cuz they both apply to this argument.

as for your last sentence, I would agree if you weren't under the impression that I was comparing biggie to 2pac.

 

[kingofnyc]

compare benzino having his own magazine ads to the bad boy payola under the laface/arista hype machine. don't even get me started on the posthumous biggie campaign.
and that's just the political side of it. don't even get me started on all the other chit.

im not fixated on the singles topic at all. YOURE THE ONE THAT KEPT BRINGING IT UP.
and lol @ that lazy ass argument you just put up after all that barking.

I didn't say there were people who never HEARD a biggie or pac album(altho that is very much true as well). I said there were tons of people who didn't OWN an album from either of them. two different things, but its cool cuz they both apply to this argument.

as for your last sentence, I would agree if you weren't under the impression that I was comparing biggie to 2pac.

1.
I’m not even gonna waste time with the payola nonsense because for one it’s never been any proof that happened and usually is said or brought up by a person whom has something against bad boy;cause there has been several other hip-hop labels rumored to have done the same thing but for whatever reason no one brings them up


2.
As far as the singles goes... you’re the one who said keep that same energy for other artists but you still haven’t named anyone that put up similar or better stats


3.
ok, I took OWN as HEARD so its no reason to go back-and-forth on this ~ but I will say I don’t understand the premise of one not owning an artist album and them not having an opinion on that artist greatness or lack of

 

[Wacky D]

1.
I’m not even gonna waste time with the payola nonsense because for one it’s never been any proof that happened and usually is said or brought up by a person whom has something against bad boy;cause there has been several other hip-hop labels rumored to have done the same thing but for whatever reason no one brings them up


2.
As far as the singles goes... you’re the one who said keep that same energy for other artists but you still haven’t named anyone that put up similar or better stats


3.
ok, I took OWN as HEARD so its no reason to go back-and-forth on this ~ but I will say I don’t understand the premise of one not owning an artist album and them not having an opinion on that artist greatness or lack of

1. this is why I don't like to argue with people concerning rappers that they have an unhealthy love for.

2. you killed your own argument with your dre & snoop examples already. maybe you'll realize it after you go back & do the math.

3. its called conditioning, bandwagon & trend-hopping.

 

[kingofnyc]

1. this is why I don't like to argue with people concerning rappers that they have an unhealthy love for.

2. you killed your own argument with your dre & snoop examples already. maybe you'll realize it after you go back & do the math.

3. its called conditioning, bandwagon & trend-hopping.

1.
There is no argument
I gave you the perfect analogy of benzino and you refuse to address it


2.
Well I guess Math wasn’t your strong point in school
Dre dropped 3 singles = 1 platinum, 1 gold
Snoop drop 3 singles = 2 gold
Biggie drop 3 singles = 2 platinum ; 1 gold

3.
whatever that suppose to mean

 

[Harry B]

Someone got his post removed cause he posted that reporter smiley in the stickied thread He was a meme for the longest on here, but became a god overnight. Fake ass fans.

How is his album thread 90 pages of love?


I still don't get why people act like he is god. Dude's : "Damn rip he was real one" You and Wack: "NOOO he was not better than PAC". It's like people saying "Kawhi is a great baller" and people like you start saying "Since when is Kawhi better than Kobe" "These dudes are calling him the goat now" "Jordan has 6 rings, how many does Kawhi have?"


1. He had a lot of fans
2. He had a lot of deep stans
3. A lot of people thought his music was aight but he seemed like a real dude
4. He was on the rise
5. A lot of rappers fukk with him as a person from the street dudes to the Jay and Puffs to the Drakes
6. A lot of people learned about his personality and movement after he passed.


It's not rocket science

 

[Frida Giezman]

 

[Wacky D]

1.
There is no argument
I gave you the perfect analogy of benzino and you refuse to address it


2.
Well I guess Math wasn’t your strong point in school
Dre dropped 3 singles = 1 platinum, 1 gold
Snoop drop 3 singles = 2 gold
Biggie drop 3 singles = 2 platinum ; 1 gold

3.
whatever that suppose to mean

1. LOL @ benzino being a perfect example. his music barely even got airplay.

2. and you didn't bother to add the album sales.

3. you cant be wasting my time - mona lisa

 

[kingofnyc]

1. LOL @ benzino being a perfect example. his music barely even got airplay.

2. and you didn't bother to add the album sales.

3. you cant be wasting my time - mona lisa

1.
Benzino is the perfect example
he and his label/team supposedly did the same exact things your claiming Biggie/Puff/BadBoy did - yet Zino couldn't sell, get spins, play & love from da culture
((Benzino music was forced down the massive throat & the massive threw it up))

2.
Dre album - 3 mill : singles 1.5 mill = 4.5 mill
Snoop album - 4 mill : singles 1 mill = 5 mill
Biggie album - 2 mill : singles 2.5 mill = 4.5 mill *at his demise*
basically the same stats
but when u add the fact that Dre had 2 NWA LP’s prior to his debut & Snoop had Dre LP before his, while Biggie was on a couple of remix songs its not comparable
i kept that same energy - it is what it is

 

[Wacky D]

1.
Benzino is the perfect example
he and his label/team supposedly did the same exact things your claiming Biggie/Puff/BadBoy did - yet Zino couldn't sell, get spins, play & love from da culture
((Benzino music was forced down the massive throat & the massive threw it up))

2.
Dre album - 3 mill : singles 1.5 mill = 4.5 mill
Snoop album - 4 mill : singles 1 mill = 5 mill
Biggie album - 2 mill : singles 2.5 mill = 4.5 mill *at his demise*
basically the same stats
but when u add the fact that Dre had 2 NWA LP’s prior to his debut & Snoop had Dre LP before his, while Biggie was on a couple of remix songs its not comparable
i kept that same energy - it is what it is

1. AGAIN, this is why I don't argue with people concerning artists that they go in full stan mode for.

2. biggie got stats like Coolio.

 

[kingofnyc]

1. AGAIN, this is why I don't argue with people concerning artists that they go in full stan mode for.

2. biggie got stats like Coolio.

1. it ain't no argument or debate - cause you haven't nor can provide a single example of this non sense about someone music being forced down the fans throats

2. did you really mention Coolio - BTW i think his 1st LP was only plat not sure about his singles... and again Coolio ~ i thought this was about real rappers

 

[Mowgli]

Legendary figure. Symbolic of transitioning from the streets to business.

 

[I Really Mean It]

I think he's not getting pressed because what he's saying isn't all that crazy and reckless.

All he's saying is, before he died, nikkas weren’t fukkin with him to the magnitude that they are now.

He became a legend AFTER he died because the spotlight was put on him.

Before he died, nikkas was sleepin on him heavy.

All these celebs talmbout, "Oh yeah, we were planning on doing some music, we just didn't get around to it"

But these nikkas doin countless records with Cardi B, Uzi vert, and french montana at the drop of a dime.

If he was such a legend before he died, why were all these artists putting off doing a record with him

Biggie was the biggest rap artist in the world when he died.

 

[WSFGDan]

he right