You forgot while simultaneously stabbing himself
Wagner Group Leader calls on Putin to declare end of war
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Coli said Ukraine is winning
This.
By all indications besides videos and memes, Ukraine is getting kilt out there. I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Russia isn't nearly as incompetent militarily as people have been led to believe.
There's kats that think because Russia's military is rife with corruption that their nuclear arsenal is largely defunct
. nikkas would get the civilization wiped the fukk out over a postulation
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
This.
By all indications besides videos and memes, Ukraine is getting kilt out there. I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Russia isn't nearly as incompetent militarily as people have been led to believe.
There's kats that think because Russia's military is rife with corruption that their nuclear arsenal is largely defunct
2014 annexation of Crimea:
vox article -
This all began as an internal Ukrainian crisis in November 2013, when President Viktor Yanukovych rejected a deal for greater integration with the European Union (here's why this was such a big deal), sparking mass protests, which Yanukovych attempted to put down violently. Russia backed Yanukovych in the crisis, while the US and Europe supported the protesters.
Since then, several big things have happened. In February, anti-government protests toppled the government and ran Yanukovych out of the country. Russia, trying to salvage its lost influence in Ukraine, invaded and annexed Crimea the next month. In April, pro-Russia separatist rebels began seizing territory in eastern Ukraine. The rebels shot down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 on July 17, killing 298 people, probably accidentally. Fighting between the rebels and the Ukrainian military intensified, the rebels started losing, and, in August, the Russian army overtly invaded eastern Ukraine to support the rebels. This has all brought the relationship between Russia and the West to its lowest point since the Cold War. Sanctions are pushing the Russian economy to the brink of recession, and more than 2,500 Ukrainians have been killed.
- Everything you need to know about the 2014 Ukraine crisis
2023 annexation of land rout to Crimea:
Putin basically already achieved the "obvious" main goal ...well other than maintaining a guaranteed NATO buffer state via Ukraine
(regime change would be a cherry on top situation at most now)
(regime change would be a cherry on top situation at most now)
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
This was extremely dramatic.Huh?!
Granted, I don't follow this really....got 1-2 posts in the official thread....but Putin was supposed to:
1. Kill Zelensky and/or oust him from power.
2. Take over Ukraine completely.
Putin did neither of those.
So yeah....I'm kinda confused here as to what you're trying to say. If you want to argue neither side is winning
Fred.
My point is that Ukraine will not meet its stated definition of a win. My opinion is that this war is an L for both sides. If your serious about having discourse you should adjust your tone
I think Putin might catch window flu if Russia isn’t done before the year is uphe's gonna fall out a window soon.
MoshpitMazi
Moshpit Gxng/ Anti Fash
THISPutin is most likely behind him saying this.
Grand Conde
Superstar
Grand Conde
Superstar
It's a stalemate currently with neither side able to achieve its goals.
My tone is fine, who do you think you are?
Either respond or not but this emotional ass response was OD. I don't follow this shyt, I'm legit confused by what you said. Had nothing to do with you personally, I don't recall interacting with you at all prior to this.
Fred.
Grand Conde
Superstar
It's extremely difficult but I'd give them more of a chance of Russia at this stage of meeting their goals. Of course, Putin has the benefit of changing their goals if he so chooses - Ukraine has no choice but to retake Crimea.
