Wait...isn't this what Dr. Umar was supposed to be doing?

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your whole post reeks of STEM...saying agriculture is not as important. Everything else I agree with
My grandparents are farmers :heh:
Its incredibly, incredibly difficult to get into agriculture and make any money :ufdup:
How many young men and women want to spend 13+ hours working like their enslaved ancestors only to break even twice a year :whoa:
Its not an important skill to learn in school, we need to focus on Economics, Mathematics, Bio/Che/Phys, Language, History (:mjpls:), Logic and Reading :lupe:
Get these kids prepped to take over the next generation in all fields :ufdup:
 

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Furthermore, some people desire to build their own home as opposed to assimilating into a burning one.

What good is calculus if you don't even know how to feed yourself? You have to rely on some other people to feed you every drop of food you eat because you wouldn't know what to do with seeds if they slapped you across your face.

What good is an ACT if you grow up to hate yourself, hate your people, and think that your role on this earth is to be subservient and support a system that thrives off of your oppression?

I should note that I do not believe that Umar is building a school, and if he is, then I question his competence. I believe that people are being sold a dream that they don't realize could be a reality without Umar's blessings.
I've made plenty of posts in the past, about this. The "feeding yourself" thing is hyper-Luddite shyt that people have been saying for like 70+ years and simply will not come to fruition.
Educating the youth is partially a job of parents. I grew up in a heavily Christian household that also had Black art, books, and language in it. People are really acting like its the US education system's job to teach the children about who they are as a person. Its not. Umar is trying to make the entire curricula about that (I guess, no one has actually seen these "plans" so I can't be too sure).
You're using a lot of Afro-centrist language to make it seem like you grasp the entire scope of the issue, but its falling kind of flat unfortunately.
As a Bolivarian, Nasserist, and Afro-Socialist, I can tell you that the "burning building" will be burning for a long time, and its better to usher our children into it than to have them die in the elements outside because they're "not White."
 

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It completely BAFFLES my mind that people still support Umar!!

It's like yall are straight SQUARES and never grew up around HUSTLERS...I can spot one A MILE AWAY, and thats EXACTLY what "Dr" Umar is!!

The sad thing is there are actually people out here doing EXACTLY what Umar says he wants to do:

Ujamaa Shule
timbuktuacademy
AFRICAN AMERICAN ACADEMY
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K-8 Tuition-Free Detroit Charter School
African American Academy for Accelerated Learning

I can actually name MANY more. These are people who are ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK, and not selling some version of Charles Xavier's school for the gifted for black folks like Umar is doing.

If Umar is SERIOUS about doing what he wants to do(which I don't think he is) it would have to GROW to the level he wants it at. He would have to start somewhere he doesn't seem willing or interested in starting at though.

THANK YOU!!!!
 

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I don't understand why people keep comparing what uhmar is doing to what this white guy or any other black private schools. Uhmar wants to be solely funded by blacks, so he can teach an african/black curriculum. He also wants to teach agriculture and technical skills not part of the normal curriculum that white funded schools don't do. He wants teach young black men in a way that no white person will, because they aren't black and don't have the same perspective.

Do I know if it will work? No. However, I hope it does. I don't want or need to shyt on these others schools but, Uhmar is trying to do something different and has different obstacles then these other schools.
this thread serves no purpose other than to thank white daddy and be the weekly fukk umar thread
 

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My grandparents are farmers :heh:
Its incredibly, incredibly difficult to get into agriculture and make any money :ufdup:
How many young men and women want to spend 13+ hours working like their enslaved ancestors only to break even twice a year :whoa:
Its not an important skill to learn in school, we need to focus on Economics, Mathematics, Bio/Che/Phys, Language, History (:mjpls:), Logic and Reading :lupe:
Get these kids prepped to take over the next generation in all fields :ufdup:
I don't agree and your description can be applied to a bunch of other careers. Not everyone needs to learn agriculture, but the opportunities should be there for those who want to learn. I and a bunch of others would rather buy our food from a trusted source than from the monopolies that run agriculture, so the market is definitely in the eye of the beholder
 

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Furthermore, some people desire to build their own home as opposed to assimilating into a burning one.

What good is calculus if you don't even know how to feed yourself? You have to rely on some other people to feed you every drop of food you eat because you wouldn't know what to do with seeds if they slapped you across your face.

What good is an ACT if you grow up to hate yourself, hate your people, and think that your role on this earth is to be subservient and support a system that thrives off of your oppression?

I should note that I do not believe that Umar is building a school, and if he is, then I question his competence. I believe that people are being sold a dream that they don't realize could be a reality without Umar's blessings.
You can learn to be self-sustaining and learn calculus too.

And if you hate yourself, your parents are to blame, for not educating you on your history and instilling your sense of self worth.

These are not either or things.
 

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My grandparents are farmers :heh:
Its incredibly, incredibly difficult to get into agriculture and make any money :ufdup:
How many young men and women want to spend 13+ hours working like their enslaved ancestors only to break even twice a year :whoa:
Its not an important skill to learn in school, we need to focus on Economics, Mathematics, Bio/Che/Phys, Language, History (:mjpls:), Logic and Reading :lupe:
Get these kids prepped to take over the next generation in all fields :ufdup:
Farming is becoming hella automated and govt controlled anyway. Mfers sound like those gold standard trade and barter CACs.

Only path to power in this system is MONEY, which requires playing the game, which requires learning things taught in "white" schools.

All the other stuff about self worth and knowledge of self and all that is important too, but I just don't think it's a school's job to do. Nobody should care more about a kid than that kid's parents and that kid's parents are the best ones to teach those kids about being a person.
 

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Here's an example of a European one :mjpls:

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An African education is a cac free experience. As a cac it might be difficult for you to understand :mjpls:

so basically remove all images of whites, references to them, and anything they came up with and we have our self a non European based education:jbhmm:
 

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You can learn to be self-sustaining and learn calculus too.

And if you hate yourself, your parents are to blame, for not educating you on your history and instilling your sense of self worth.

These are not either or things.

All I'll say is my lady came over from poor ass Sierra Leone and was way ahead of other kids her age. So far that they had no choice but to let her skip a grade. Coming from a country with way less resources and you're more advanced than americans, is :ohhh:

American education is a joke but the biggest joke is parents that don't do their part and expect it all to be on the teachers

these negroes want some magic teacher to raise their kids. the amount of history and social studies schools cover is so light that even if you're white in the "european school system" you won't get enough to truly learn and appreciate your ancestry anyhow and the same thing goes for a "african based" education. School curriculums for the most part are based on what skills society figures they'll need in the future to be more successful.
 

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My grandparents are farmers :heh:
Its incredibly, incredibly difficult to get into agriculture and make any money :ufdup:
How many young men and women want to spend 13+ hours working like their enslaved ancestors only to break even twice a year :whoa:
Its not an important skill to learn in school, we need to focus on Economics, Mathematics, Bio/Che/Phys, Language, History (:mjpls:), Logic and Reading :lupe:
Get these kids prepped to take over the next generation in all fields :ufdup:

Who said anything about making money? Anyone who eats should know where their food comes from and how to provide it for themselves. It is not really a limit on what can be learned, so if children can study x, y, and z; then they can also study basic life skills. No one said that basic life skills should be the sole focus and everything else should be neglected.

Furthermore, most black people in 2016 are not farmers, their grandparents were not farmers, and if white people stopped feeding us then most of us would be out of luck. You may feel comfortable being in that position, and raising children the same way- but I do not. You need food in order to live.

If kids have time to learn video games and rap songs, then they have time to learn the principles of hydroponics (among other things). No one is arguing that should be the sole focus. But black people especially do need to learn basic life skills and trades. It is a shame that we believe otherwise as it is quite limiting.



I've made plenty of posts in the past, about this. The "feeding yourself" thing is hyper-Luddite shyt that people have been saying for like 70+ years and simply will not come to fruition.
Educating the youth is partially a job of parents. I grew up in a heavily Christian household that also had Black art, books, and language in it. People are really acting like its the US education system's job to teach the children about who they are as a person. Its not. Umar is trying to make the entire curricula about that (I guess, no one has actually seen these "plans" so I can't be too sure).
You're using a lot of Afro-centrist language to make it seem like you grasp the entire scope of the issue, but its falling kind of flat unfortunately.
As a Bolivarian, Nasserist, and Afro-Socialist, I can tell you that the "burning building" will be burning for a long time, and its better to usher our children into it than to have them die in the elements outside because they're "not White."

This sounds lovely, but it hardly applies to anything that I have said.

Educating the youth is not "partially" the job of parents. Parents are 100% responsible for educating their children. Parents are 100% responsible for making sure their children have access to the resources and skills they need in order to thrive.

You are free to integrate your children into whatever you want, and I am free to choose a different direction. You are free to raise good employees (which is very important), while I will spend my time raising employers. You are free to raise children who will compete for a better spot at the table of oppression, while I will be far away - at my own table and teaching my children how to build their own. Yes indeed, those tables will be much smaller but they will belong to them and no one else.

It's a sad state when people believe that the only choices are go into a burning house or die outside. That's the type of mindset that lacks reason, logic, and accountability - that is why I cannot allow my children to be educated by people who think that way.

Go into a burning house :hula: stand here and die. There are no other options?

We are all free to walk our own paths, and the illusion of freedom is nice. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

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so if you were to design a curriculum or your own school how would you run it to remove all cacery:jbhmm:

There would be 3 classes. African history, certs 101, and Brazilian Juijitsu. It'd be the greatest school in human history :blessed:

EDIT: and every male student would have to read this book:

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