Wait so kawhi really the second best player in the nba

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The four best are without question Durant, LeBron, Kawhi, and Steph. Everyone else is beneath them.

Durant is the best offensive player of the last 20 years and has become a great defender and rim protector. LeBron has the most versatile skill set and the highest BBIQ. Kawhi is ultra efficient offensively and the best wing defender of his generation. Steph is the best shooter to ever live and a great facilitator.

LeBron stopped being the clear cut best player in the world since Durant's MVP run 3 years ago. He's just called the undisputed best due to his body of work and the fact that he hasn't fallen off, but these guys have clearly AT LEAST somewhat closed the gap, and IMO have obviously surpassed him in various areas. I still cite him as the best out of respect for his resume and pulling off the upset last finals.

After those 4, it's Anthony Davis, James Harden and Russell Westbrook. After those 3 I think it's John Wall and Isaiah Thomas, though I like both of those guys' games more than Russ and Harden's.
 
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Though not firmly behind them, Kawhi is still behind Lebron, Durant and Steph. One year of superstar play is not enough of a sample size. Especially when you consider that the aforementioned three have had greater individual seasons in recent years.
 

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Though not firmly behind them, Kawhi is still behind Lebron, Durant and Steph. One year of superstar play is not enough of a sample size. Especially when you consider that the aforementioned three have had greater individual seasons in recent years.
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Curry's impact is only as big as it is because of the Warriors' personnel/system.

He's clearly not capable of carrying bummier teams the way the other top players all have proven to be able to do. His percentages go down the most in the playoffs too.

LeBron
KD/Harden/Kawhi

Curry/Wall/Westbrook/Kyrie


Hierarchy is like that. All these other lists are hot Coli takes.
 

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Curry is 100% the biggest reason for their success. They'd still win 50 games though if he or Durant were out for the season. Cavs would miss the playoffs.
 

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Ok.. kyrie outplayed curry in the 2016 finals
Stats Kyrie Irving - Stephen Curry
PPG 27.1 -------------22.6
FG% 46.8 -------------40.3
3P% 40.5 -------------40.3
FT% 93.9 --------------92.9
AST 3.9 -----------------3.7
TOV 2.6 -----------------4.3
STL 2.1 ------------------0.9
+/- +4.7------------------- -1.0
GP 7 ----------------------- 7
MIN 39.0 ----------------- 35.1

Does that mean kyrie's better than curry...? :mjlol: :MjOhhGrin2:
 

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Ok.. kyrie outplayed curry in the 2016 finals
Stats Kyrie Irving - Stephen Curry
PPG 27.1 -------------22.6
FG% 46.8 -------------40.3
3P% 40.5 -------------40.3
FT% 93.9 --------------92.9
AST 3.9 -----------------3.7
TOV 2.6 -----------------4.3
STL 2.1 ------------------0.9
+/- +4.7------------------- -1.0
GP 7 ----------------------- 7
MIN 39.0 ----------------- 35.1

Does that mean kyrie's better than curry...? :mjlol: :MjOhhGrin2:
the point is kawhi has already shown superstar on the biggest stage 3 years ago. This season isnt an anomaly. So saying that other guys have longer resumes is silly. Curry only has 2 years of true elite play as well
 

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The way y'all disrespect Durant :mjlol:

Durant is is a player who literally does not look up to anyone in NBA history in terms of talent.He is also in his athletic prime. we'll see in a month from the best player in the world is
 

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Y'all just.gonna sit here and act like curry hasn't been running the league the last two years. Where is this slander coming from:mjlol:


Curry washed every MVP candidate in a two week span on the road without Durant and y'all trying to put him in the Lillard tier :hhh:
1. He's lightskin ballin on fools. You can see dudes insecurities on full display when it comes to this Curry hate.
2. He has a "clean" image with a trophy wife(as far as we know) and a beautiful family.
3. And they are just simply jealous of his and the team's success. It never fails..... When there is a dominate team people tend to turn on those players.
 
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