Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

[Isaiah Bradley]

Brehs, you don't go to immigration court to apply for citizenship. Those two things have NOTHING to do with each other.




On top of that, illegal immigration peaked in 2007. If it was the fault of illegal immigrants that the courts were clogged, then that shyt would have happened a decade ago.

Wait times doubled when Trump took office because of what TRUMP did. You seriously want to argue otherwise?

the sad part is that before dap fishing on an innanet forum, you could've used the innanet to research basic government structures
But deemed dapfishing/Trump bashing/skewing of facts to manipulate, to be more important than intellectual honesty to assure progress/change is possible due to learned citizens and legal residents being able to make informed decisions

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Which branch of government deals with immigration?

Traditionally the Department of State. More recently Homeland security which is involved with border patrols, Immigration and Naturalization services, ICE, etc. These are all part of the Executive branch of government.

Which branch of government deals with immigration

In most immigration cases, the question of which agency to start with can be answered through the location of the individual needing assistance:

• If you are already inside the borders of the U.S. and are in need of help with an immigration issue (including applications for lawful permanent residence, change of immigrant status, and citizenship), you will most likely want to contact U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).
• If you are a foreign citizen abroad or overseas, and you need help with an immigration issue (such as an application for nonimmigrant visa for international travel, or refugee status), you will most likely want to contact a U.S. Department of State embassy or consulate near you

Created in 2003, the Bureau of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is a branch of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. USCIS is in charge of all immigration-related applications and authorizations for foreign individuals who are inside the borders of the U.S. When a foreign individual seeks entry into the United States, he or she is subject to the authority of the USCIS and the Department of Homeland Security -- including the power to authorize or deny admission into the U.S. -- even though the individual may have received a valid visa from a U.S. embassy or consular overseas.

Immigration Government Agencies - FindLaw

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) oversees lawful immigration to the United States. USCIS secures America’s promise as a nation of immigrants by providing accurate and useful information to our customers, granting immigration and citizenship benefits, promoting an awareness and understanding of citizenship, and ensuring the integrity of our immigration system.

Citizenship and Immigration Services Overview

before/after/during "immigration court," homeland security efforts/conclusions/resources are utilized

you don't know the immigration process, but still want to critize Trump about it

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@88m3
@hashmander
not like some of us needed proof, but by dapping this clown, yall further prove that being informed and accountable is trivial and blind Trump bashing is your sole pleasure

And who was celebrating those supposed "tactics"?

so silly and self serving..now you're questioning whether
-the request for asylum/refugee status is weaponize,
-the family based petition isn't undermined by anchor babies
-the innate delay in punishment at visa expiration hearings, isn't apart of the plan

If you don't know(in your case, don't care to know) the problem then you don't know how to solve it

 

[606onit]

What do you mean "should've "?

no one is owed citizenship if they apply what a non-story

embarrassing

Right. Cats thinking they're OWED something.

 

[phcitywarrior]

.why the disgusting face ?

If we shut down legal immigration then we shut down its the president call. This isn't some right , we don't have to let immigrants in. I don't get some of you, it's frustrating because I can tell you have no national pride .Iff we make a call of not over populating the US with immigrants , why would you care ?

The US doesnt have to, but it does benefit for having a system that allows hard working, productive immigrants come into the US. This is particularly true in academia. The US has benefited from allowing some of the smartest minds come to the US and contribute to scientific progress (Einstein, Elon Musk etc).

Good legal immigration also allows mitigation against population decline as seen in Japan and much of Western Europe.

Canada has opened up its doors to qualified immigrants and allow them attain citizenship relatively quickly (8 years since arrival). It’s allowed Canada add more productive workers to mitigate against its aging population and swollen public welfare pension.

 

[Perfectson]

The US doesnt have to, but it does benefit for having a system that allows hard working, productive immigrants come into the US. This is particularly true in academia. The US has benefited from allowing some of the smartest minds come to the US and contribute to scientific progress (Einstein, Elon Musk etc).

Good legal immigration also allows mitigation against population decline as seen in Japan and much of Western Europe.

Canada has opened up its doors to qualified immigrants and allow them attain citizenship relatively quickly (8 years since arrival). It’s allowed Canada add more productive workers to mitigate against its aging population and swollen public welfare pension.

agreed on this but in reality, if the US devoted more time to its younger population that currently impoverished, we wouldn't need immigation for those purposes. At .least not the numbers we have now (legal and illegal). I mean you don't see China or India doing this on a large scale (yes they have it ) but because of nationalism they devote more to their own population though both still have poor people.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the sad part is that before dap fishing on an innanet forum, you could've used the innanet to research basic government structures
But deemed dapfishing/Trump bashing/skewing of facts to manipulate, to be more important than intellectual honesty to assure progress/change is possible due to learned citizens and legal residents being able to make informed decisions

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Which branch of government deals with immigration


Immigration Government Agencies - FindLaw



Citizenship and Immigration Services Overview

before/after/during "immigration court," homeland security efforts/conclusions/resources are utilized

you don't know the immigration process, but still want to critize Trump about it

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@88m3
@hashmander
not like some of us needed proof, but by dapping this clown, yall further prove that being informed and accountable is trivial and blind Trump bashing is your sole pleasure

so silly and self serving..now you're questioning whether
-the request for asylum/refugee status is weaponize,
-the family based petition isn't undermined by anchor babies
-the innate delay in punishment at visa expiration hearings, isn't apart of the plan

If you don't know(in your case, don't care to know) the problem then you don't know how to solve it

Literally NOTHING in that whole mess you quoted showed regular ctiizenship applications going through immigration court. You do realize that was the question, right?

Here's a much more straightforward link than the mess you quoted:

Apply for Citizenship

10 Steps to Naturalization: Understanding the Process of Becoming a U.S. Citizen

Step 1. Determine if you are already a U.S. citizen.
What to do: If you are not a U.S. citizen by birth, or you did not acquire or derive U.S. citizenship from your parent(s) automatically after birth, go to the next step.


Step 2. Determine if you are eligible to become a U.S. citizen.
What to do: Review the naturalization eligibility worksheet (PDF, 301 KB) to help you decide if you are eligible to apply for naturalization.


Step 3. Prepare your Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
What to do: Download the form and read the instructions. Collect the necessary documents to demonstrate your eligibility for naturalization. If you reside outside the United States, get 2 passport-style photo taken. Use the document checklist (PDF, 178 KB) to make sure you collect all the required documents.


Step 4. Submit your Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
Once you submit Form N-400, USCIS will send you a receipt notice. You can check current processing times and the status of your application online or by calling the USCIS Contact Center at 1-800-375-5283 or 1-800-767-1833 (hearing impaired).


Step 5. Go to the biometrics appointment, if applicable.
What to do: If you need to take biometrics, USCIS will send you an appointment notice that includes your biometrics appointment date, time, and location. Arrive at the designated location at the scheduled time. Have your biometrics taken.


Step 6. Complete the interview.
Once all the preliminary processes on your case are complete, USCIS will schedule an interview with you to complete the naturalization process. You must report to the USCIS office at the date and time on your appointment notice. Please bring the appointment notice with you.


Step 7. Receive a decision from USCIS on your Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
USCIS will issue you a written notice of decision.

• Granted—USCIS may approve your Form N-400 if the evidence in your record establishes that you are eligible for naturalization.
  
  
• Continued—USCIS may continue your application if you need to provide additional evidence/documentation, fail to provide USCIS the correct documents, or fail the English and/or civics test the first time.
  
  
• Denied—USCIS will deny your Form N-400 if the evidence in your record establishes you are not eligible for naturalization.

Step 8. Receive a notice to take the Oath of Allegiance.
What to expect: If USCIS approved your Form N-400 in step 7, you may be able to participate in a naturalization ceremony on the same day as your interview. If a same day naturalization ceremony is unavailable, USCIS will mail you a notification with the date, time, and location of your scheduled ceremony.


Step 9. Take the Oath of Allegiance to the United States.
You are not a U.S. citizen until you take the Oath of Allegiance at a naturalization ceremony.

Don't you see that NOWHERE in that process are you appearing in an immigration court?


The same with border patrol. You use zero border patrol resources to apply for citizenship.

The same with ICE. You are extremely unlikely to use ICE resources to apply for citizenship.

Some aspects of the citizenship process are handled by the same sector of the government that handles illegal immigration. But they are entirely different staff in entirely different departments with entirely different funding streams. THAT is how our government works.

 

[phcitywarrior]

agreed on this but in reality, if the US devoted more time to its younger population that currently impoverished, we wouldn't need immigation for those purposes. At .least not the numbers we have now (legal and illegal). I mean you don't see China or India doing this on a large scale (yes they have it ) but because of nationalism they devote more to their own population though both still have poor people.

This is true for skills development. But unless there's a revolution that leads to American's having more kids, the population will table off and then decline as is happening in Europe.

There are two main benefits from legal immigration: talent development and population increase.

 

[Perfectson]

This is true for skills development. But unless there's a revolution that leads to American's having more kids, the population will table off and then decline as is happening in Europe.

There are two main benefits from legal immigration: talent development and population increase.

you mean white america because black america is having children and the reasons why they don't is financial security, which is partly skills development and education also UBI. I believe different programs would actually be conducive for americans to have more children because they are financial secure to do so.

but i hear what you're saying for now , but I think this is a policy issue that we should strategically fixing and not just importing insta-families.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Literally NOTHING in that whole mess you quoted showed regular ctiizenship applications going through immigration court. You do realize that was the question, right?

Here's a much more straightforward link than the mess you quoted:

Apply for Citizenship
Don't you see that NOWHERE in that process are you appearing in an immigration court?


The same with border patrol. You use zero border patrol resources to apply for citizenship.

The same with ICE. You are extremely unlikely to use ICE resources to apply for citizenship.

Some aspects of the citizenship process are handled by the same sector of the government that handles illegal immigration. But they are entirely different staff in entirely different departments with entirely different funding streams. THAT is how our government works.

lmao. There was no question, you can't admit that you didn't understand the post you quoted
So you're double down on your blissful ignorance to stroke your ego by admitting that you're skimming the citizenship process for the word "immigration court"


Using the word "separate" doesn't mean there's no influential relationship
-I'm a vegetarian, I don't live/work near or in the farming industry but yet I'm still influenced/affected by how cows are raised. Despite being totally separated from them
-I'm not a Muslim, don't live in a Muslim community and I don't have Muslim friends but yet the recent shootings still influence/affects me, not just emotionally. Despite being totally separated from them
...now imagine the influential but "separate" relationship among departments in the same company or a government branch

before/after/during "immigration court," homeland security efforts/conclusions/resources are utilized

Hinder the processing of ICE reports, you're hindering the portion of the USCIS that assist the "immigration courts" to effectively make timely and accurate rulings
Once a portion of the USCIS duties become overwhelmingly demanding, it will impact other portions, like citizenship processing and other departments under DHS, like Secret Service, who depends on their efforts



Instead of skimming for the word "immigration court," understand that resources are finite, especially in government and corporation after a budget has passed


It's an insult that you're poster of the year, separate from the owners, moderators, regular posters on thecoli but makes a negative impression about the quality of posters, standards held by the community with your egotistical smart dumbness

 

[Professor Emeritus]

lmao. There was no question, you can't admit that you didn't understand the post you quoted
So you're double down on your blissful ignorance to stroke your ego by admitting that you're skimming the citizenship process for the word "immigration court"


Using the word "separate" doesn't mean there's no influential relationship
-I'm a vegetarian, I don't live/work near or in the farming industry but yet I'm still influenced/affected by how cows are raised. Despite being totally separated from them
-I'm not a Muslim, don't live in a Muslim community and I don't have Muslim friends but yet the recent shootings still influence/affects me, not just emotionally. Despite being totally separated from them
...now imagine the influential but "separate" relationship among departments in the same company or a government branch


Hinder the processing of ICE reports, you're hindering the portion of the USCIS that assist the "immigration courts" to effectively make timely and accurate rulings
Once a portion of the USCIS duties become overwhelmingly demanding, it will impact other portions, like citizenship processing and other departments under DHS, like Secret Service, who depends on their efforts



Instead of skimming for the word "immigration court," understand that resources are finite, especially in government and corporation after a budget has passed


It's an insult that you're poster of the year, separate from the owners, moderators, regular posters on thecoli but makes a negative impression about the quality of posters, standards held by the community with your egotistical smart dumbness

Breh, I can't figure out if you're honestly this confused or just a MAGA troll.

Let me put it a different way for you:

Illegal immigrant entries dropped substantially the first year Trump became president.

But citizenship application wait times went way up.

Comprende?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Breh, I can't figure out if you're honestly this confused or just a MAGA troll.

Let me put it a different way for you:
Illegal immigrant entries dropped substantially the first year Trump became president.
But citizenship application wait times went way up.
Comprende?

A person always becomes a troll when you can't refute their point clown went from lazily skimming for the words "immigrant courts" in the citizen process to now using the generic phrase of illegal immigration. Which like white supremacy and mental health, is a generic term that allow self serving manipulators to omit details while talking in circles

There's more than one way to be considered an illegal immigrant and there's more than one way to hinder the efforts of USCIS, thus affecting the citizenship processing. Both of which I've already referenced in my previous posts

Trump's semi successful efforts on the border forced a new strategy to be used; increase of asylum/refuges request, couple that with the regular expiring visas, border jumpers, the continual undermining of ICE by sanctuary cities, and the already existing illegals, all have overwhelmed DHS

Comprende?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

A person always becomes a troll when you can't refute their point clown went from lazily skimming for the words "immigrant courts" in the citizen process to now using the generic phrase of illegal immigration. Which like white supremacy and mental health, is a generic term that allow self serving manipulators to omit details while talking in circles

Let's summarize the discussion to date. We have two competing theories for why wait times for citizenship applications are going up.

rhakim's theory: the Trump administration is deliberately working to slow and break the legal immigration system

My evidence for that theory...

1. It is confirmed by immigration law experts, which I quoted
2. It matches the exact time frame when the wait times went up, which I pointed out
3. It matches the actions and objectives of the Trump administration, which I quoted


Bradley's theory: illegal immigrants are purposely overwhelming the system, which somehow is affecting citizenship application wait times

Bradley's evidence for that theory...

1. Both citizenship and illegal immigration fall under DHS

That's it. That's the only evidence you've provided. You've provided NO experts confirming your theory, the times frames DON'T match (because citizenship application processing times slowed well before illegal immigration cases surged), and it DOESN'T align with anyone's actions or objectives.


That's the entire conversation so far.

Trump's semi successful efforts on the border forced a new strategy to be used; increase of asylum/refuges request, couple that with the regular expiring visas, border jumpers, the continual undermining of ICE by sanctuary cities, and the already existing illegals, all have overwhelmed DHS

Comprende?

Your first problem is this supposed "new strategy" didn't even come until well AFTER citizenship processing times slowed, so it couldn't have caused it

Your second problem is that the courts that handle asylum/refugee requests DON'T handle citizenship applications

Your third problem is that resources for processing citizenship applications were NOT moved into the immigration courts

Your fourth problem is that the number of border jumpers has DECREASED, not increased, and border jumpers don't take resources away from citizenship processing anyway

Your fifth problem is that "the continual undermining of ICE by sanctuary cities" has nothing to do with anything, ICE doesn't have to spend any resources on the "being undermined" issue - in fact, if sanctuary cities all cooperated with ICE, that would lead to MORE cases for ICE, and a BIGGER workload.


You're just listing a series of right-wing talking points and expecting us to believe that through some sort of magical thinking, those things have slowed citizenship applications.

"Illegal immigrants have clogged the immigration courts and impeded ICE's efforts, therefore there's no resources for legal immigration! Because, uh, illegals! Border jumpers! Anchor babies! Sanctuary cities! Undermining ICE! If you don't believe me it's just a bunch of Trump bashing! Trump bashing!"

You haven't demonstrating how any of those things have hindered citizenship applications. Your sole argument is that they're handled by DHS, therefore <magical thinking> cause and effect! Even though you still haven't shown what the actual relationship is, the experts disagree with you, and the time frames don't match.


And all the whining about Poster of the Year, that's like the third time I've heard that in the last week, even though the vote was three months ago. That thread I made about the agenda of right-wing agents sure got certain commenters heated.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Let's summarize the discussion to date. We have two competing theories for why wait times for citizenship applications are going up.

rhakim's theory: the Trump administration is deliberately working to slow and break the legal immigration system

My evidence for that theory...

1. It is confirmed by immigration law experts, which I quoted
2. It matches the exact time frame when the wait times went up, which I pointed out
3. It matches the actions and objectives of the Trump administration, which I quoted


Bradley's theory: illegal immigrants are purposely overwhelming the system, which somehow is affecting citizenship application wait times

Bradley's evidence for that theory...

1. Both citizenship and illegal immigration fall under DHS

That's it. That's the only evidence you've provided. You've provided NO experts confirming your theory, the times frames DON'T match (because citizenship application processing times slowed well before illegal immigration cases surged), and it DOESN'T align with anyone's actions or objectives.


That's the entire conversation so far.

....this is the poster of the year folks

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Meanwhile, many agency officers who conduct citizenship interviews have been reassigned to the southern border to interview asylum seekers, whose cases the administration wishes to expedite

Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

The above sentence from the OP's source proves you wrong and proves me correct, despite the overly simplified and biased summary of my point. But I'm in a good mood and is for the fukkery today, so I'll add on to prove that your kind don't read to comprehend but to skim for blind bashing purposes only

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Again, this entire discussion is unnecessary had you just admitted that you didn't understand the post you quoted, which simply highlights how overwhelmed DHS is; for various reasons. Which exactly what your blatantly left leaning source PSMag and the OP's often left leaning NYTimes source is saying

Trump has been in office for 2 years, both sources from you and OP covers those years while referencing increase in citizenship applications or asylum seekers, so why are you talmbowt numbers don't match up? clown


Your kind have adopted the bad habit of taking liberty with drawing conclusions based on capacious wording. Which is often learned behavior that stems from the cited biased sources, soley to skew conversations in their favor... in other words...

is a generic term that allow self serving manipulators to omit details while talking in circles

Just like "separate" doesn't negate influence...."decreasing" doesn't negate unmanageable

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The estimated number of undocumented immigrants living in the USA reached a 12-year low in 2016, continuing a decade-long decline in which that population fell from a high of 12.2 million in 2007 to 10.7 million in 2016

U.S. Unauthorized Immigration Total Lowest in a Decade

The number of pending immigration court cases soared by 30,000 to more than 650,000 in the first two months of the 2018 fiscal year, according to a count of public records conducted by Syracuse University and published late last week. In those two months alone, the growth in pending cases outpaced that of the entire 2017 fiscal year, the report showed.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/is-trump-solving-the-immigration-court-backlog-or-is-he-funding-it

Spikes in citizenship request isn't unique to any administration. Neither is an administration being forced to delay processing...but what differs is
-prioritizing,
-how resources are rearrange, and
-the readily available resources to address past, current and new workloads

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There have been bigger application spikes in the past, such as in 2007, when the caseload swelled to 1.4 million and the agency was able to work through the backlog by the following year. That has not happened with the current pileup.

“Applications for citizenship have surged many times in the past and U.S.C.I.S. was able to bring enough resources to bear to tame them. Wait times have doubled and the agency is barely processing half of their backlog,” said Doug Rand, a founder of Boundless Immigration.

Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

Which goes back to my original point...

Hinder the processing of ICE reports, you're hindering the portion of the USCIS that assist the "immigration courts" to effectively make timely and accurate rulings

Once a portion of the USCIS duties become overwhelmingly demanding, it will impact other portions, like citizenship processing and other departments under DHS, like Secret Service, who depends on their efforts

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The increase required U.S.C.I.S. to hire more staff, open two new offices and expand 10 existing offices to keep up, though processing times have slowed. Still, the agency says it naturalized more people in the first six months of this year than in the same period for each of the previous five years.

Congratulations, You Are Now a U.S. Citizen. Unless Someone Decides Later You’re Not.

Meanwhile, many agency officers who conduct citizenship interviews have been reassigned to the southern border to interview asylum seekers, whose cases the administration wishes to expedite

It noted that the agency’s proposed budget for the 2019 fiscal year included a request that more than $200 million of its fee revenue be transferred to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency that rounds up people for deportation.

“This appears to represent part of U.S.C.I.S.’s larger shift toward prioritizing immigration enforcement over the service-oriented adjudications at the core of the agency’s mandate,” said the letter, which sought details about efforts to reduce and eliminate backlogs.

Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

But the administration has signaled it may soon dwarf that substantial uptick in immigration cases. Last week, Attorney General Jeff Sessions called to review the practice of so-called administrative closures, in which a judge does not rule in favor of an immigration claim but bars an immigrant from deportation while they petition for citizenship, the Associated Press reported.

If Sessions does move to re-open the 350,000 administratively closed cases, the decision would fly in the face of the administration's recent pledges to slash its tremendous immigration court backlog in half by 2020, which unnamed administration officials told the Washington Post it aimed to do by adding more judges and updating technology in courts

https://psmag.com/social-justice/is-trump-solving-the-immigration-court-backlog-or-is-he-funding-it

why is administrative closures being addressed by AG Sessions?

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Administrative closures have been a lifeline to immigrants who apply for citizenship, permanent residency or other visas, shielding them from deportation while their petitions are vetted. But critics say judges too often let people stay in the country longer than they should in a sort of legal purgatory.

Sessions takes aim at judges' handling of immigration cases


...and yet you were questioning the legitimacy of the following "tactics"...

-the request for asylum/refugee status is weaponize,
-the family based petition isn't undermined by anchor babies
-the innate delay in punishment at visa expiration hearings, isn't apart of the plan

which contributes to the administration's approach and efforts to close all immigration and citizenship loopholes

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Citizenship applications are receiving additional scrutiny — and that is likely to intensify. The Trump administration says that it is placing a premium on integrity.

Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

Another agency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, has requested $207.6 million to hire an additional 300 agents to investigate more cases, including marriage, visa, residency and citizenship fraud.

Congratulations, You Are Now a U.S. Citizen. Unless Someone Decides Later You’re Not.

...because...

There's more than one way to be considered an illegal immigrant and there's more than one way to hinder the efforts of USCIS, thus affecting the citizenship processing.

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Increasingly unauthorized immigrants are likely to be long-term U.S. residents: Two-thirds of adult unauthorized immigrants have lived in the country for more than 10 years.

U.S. Unauthorized Immigration Total Lowest in a Decade

3 of the Most Common Ways People Immigrate Illegally
1. Illegal Entry
2. Visa Overstay
3. Border Crossing Card Violation

3 of the Most Common Ways People Immigrate Illegally

She took the oath of citizenship in 2007, a step she felt would secure her status in her adopted homeland.

Federal prosecutors in May filed a rare denaturalization case against Ms. Borgoño, 64, accusing her of committing fraud when she applied for citizenship and failed to disclose that she had taken part in a crime several years before she applied for citizenship — though she had not at the time been charged with it. It wasn’t until four years later, in 2011, that Ms. Borgoño pleaded guilty to helping her boss, to no benefit of her own, defraud the Export-Import Bank of the United States of $24 million.

Congratulations, You Are Now a U.S. Citizen. Unless Someone Decides Later You’re Not.

Ahmed Bafagih, 31, a permanent resident since 2010, was denied citizenship after he told an officer during his interview last month in Houston that he was born in Kenya, not Yemen, as appeared in his file.

Wait Times for Citizenship Have Doubled in the Last Two Years

Now you're questioning whether sanctuary cities are doing what their name suggest and what they were created to do?lol, pure desperation

Here's a recent thread about it

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Illegal immigrant with criminal history breaks into home and stabs old lady to death

bubu he did't reference experts....used mostly yours and OP sources to prove my point

....this is the poster of the year folks

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If you don't know(in your case, don't care to know) the problem then you don't know how to solve it

Loyalty to only seeking and spreading truth > blind loyalty, bashing, and praising

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Trump has been in office for 2 years, both sources from you and OP covers those years while referencing increase in citizenship applications or asylum seekers, so why are you talmbowt numbers don't match up? clown

That's my timeline, not your timeline.

Citizenship application slowdown began after Trump entered office, even though asylum seekers didn't spike when Trump entered office, that spike came a good year later. MY numbers match, yours don't.

You're right that the DHS is "overwhelmed" in a sense, I listed numerous ways that is true in my very first post. But it is overwhelmed BECAUSE of the decisions that Trump has made, in many cases in what looks like an intentional attempt to make the system work worse.

About 2/3 of your links and spoilers support my point or have nothing to do with the topic whatsoever, your train of thought is perplexing.


And why are you obsessed with the "Poster of the Year" designation - you realize that doesn't help your point, right? You also realize that whining "Trump bashing" repeatedly doesn't endear you to anyone, it just looks like....whining.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

That's my timeline, not your timeline.

Citizenship application slowdown began after Trump entered office, even though asylum seekers didn't spike when Trump entered office, that spike came a good year later. MY numbers match, yours don't.

You're right that the DHS is "overwhelmed" in a sense, I listed numerous ways that is true in my very first post. But it is overwhelmed BECAUSE of the decisions that Trump has made, in many cases in what looks like an intentional attempt to make the system work worse.

About 2/3 of your links and spoilers support my point or have nothing to do with the topic whatsoever, your train of thought is perplexing.

Nah, you list generic nonsense..I'm providing context with details. I specified what's partly affecting Trump's administration processing of citizenship

Being that a spike/decrease in citizenship application isn't unique to an administration, you need more details inorder to address all causes for delay. But your kind is only interested in bashing Trump's "decisions." Which foolishly includes criticizing him for addressing citizenship based on fraud

There are too many things beyond politics, that shouldn't be weaponize but political party apologist/anarchist/conditional skeptics have held this country hostage. All loopholes should be closed that undermines the integrity of a process, but depending on which apologist/anarchist/skeptic you speak to, then taxes,college entrance, or illegal immigration shouldn't be prioritized or casually addressed or ignored

Point out what supports your argument, don't half azz now

And why are you obsessed with the "Poster of the Year" designation - you realize that doesn't help your point, right? You also realize that whining "Trump bashing" repeatedly doesn't endear you to anyone, it just looks like....whining.

It's no obsession, it's to reference my original argument against your manipulative use of the word "separation" to negate influence. You are poster of the year but yet your reasoning and sources are lacking. Which reflects negative on me via my membership in the same forum community

I'm extending the same loyalty to truth that I did for past administrations and every aspect of my life.

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My family, colleagues, and social meets don't allow blind loyalty/praise/criticism

I've already witnessed/been a target of how lazy and self serving tactics used against the opps, were then also justified to undermine allies

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Consistency and accountability are the only ways to build trust among humans

 

[the cac mamba]

Let me put it a different way for you:

Illegal immigrant entries dropped substantially the first year Trump became president.

But citizenship application wait times went way up.

can you explain why either of these are bad for people who already live here?