Heavy_Handz
Superstar
I just mean he doesn’t have a standout voice.
WALE FOLARIN 2: 19,700k first week
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No he’s not.
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Wale was too jack of all trades sad to say. He could do anything but never found a niche or gimmick that stuck
JCole got the fake deep humble homeless gimmick
Drake got simp soliloquy fake tough guy gimmick
Cudi got the complete weirdo harmonizer gimmick
Kendrick got the super rapper mysterious gimmick
Meek got the street dude gimmick
What was left for Wale?
JCole got the fake deep humble homeless gimmick
Drake got simp soliloquy fake tough guy gimmick
Cudi got the complete weirdo harmonizer gimmick
Kendrick got the super rapper mysterious gimmick
Meek got the street dude gimmick
What was left for Wale?
YakSpiller
Veteran
He should of stayed with the hypebeast/sneaker head shyt.
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
He never had enough "crossover" success for that to route to work for him.
Cudi had beef with him back in his heyday
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
Should’ve firmly leaned into the Bad/Lotus Flower Bomb/That Way type music, basically positively spotlighting black women/black love.
He did
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Let me keep it honest here: he was a bit early on this wave.
If Wale had come on the scene 3 to 5 years later he might be a way bigger artist.
I think the whole Seinfeld shyt plus the black positivity/love/spoken word type songs would have hit harder.
Why hasn't this dude tried acting? He could be pretty good on a Insecure/Love Life type show as a supporting character
these concepts have been seen before especially CC white, that shyt has been run down to the ground of comparing cocain to a White women, we have a whole slang for it
Barry sanders is a old run down concept used by rappers to, making a whole song using sport references has also been done before, i recall Kendrick having a song like it on his Training Day mixtape. years before that Barry song came out.
The manipulation is your basic, playa/ smash and dash type of song. Just because he put a fancy title on it caliling it " The _______" doesnt make it anymore high concept of a song than what Cole has done.
Razor is just a WWE verison of the "All sports references to show how lyrical i am" type of song nikkas do
Eye of the tiger is basically just a Wale's version of "Kevins Haryt" which Cole has done.
The Bloom is your typical metaphoric poem comparing women to flowers, which is cliche and has been used in poetry/rap forever. whether slightly touched in a few bars or in a whole song
Chess is pretty cool
i always liked that track espescially that Ray/reagan linegoin off what you showed me, he really doesnt. nor is he a better lyricist. hes more willing to carry a whole lyrical theme than cole thru a song or base a whole song off a theme. But doing that does not mean your the better lyricist
Plus alot of those concepts like CC white, Barry sanders, have been reused and have been covered over already by others
those are 3 things that are def factors, but they are not the end all be all to cover someone's ass when they are outdone at everything else. Cole is better at flow, delievery, voice, cadence, songwriting
and creativity and concepts fall more in align with artistry not rapping, you can be dope at rapping and not be a good concept type of artist(Lil wayne, Jay Z)
And concepts dont mean shyt if they are not well executed right, so even if you have a concept, Who fukkin cares if it falls flat on its face and doesnt make for enjoyable music(which is the fukkin point of all this)
even tho im defending Cole, i found KOD initially somewhat subpar even tho it had what you can call a "creative" concept, i didnt like it much. it has grown on me a little tho.
kinda like you ovverating Wale, and his basic ass allegorical concept raps
"OH my god he made a song comparing cocaine to a white girl
""who would have thought of doin that
?"
these concepts have been seen before especially CC white, that shyt has been run down to the ground of comparing cocain to a White women, we have a whole slang for it
Barry sanders is a old run down concept used by rappers to, making a whole song using sport references has also been done before, i recall Kendrick having a song like it on his Training Day mixtape. years before that Barry song came out.
The manipulation is your basic, playa/ smash and dash type of song. Just because he put a fancy title on it caliling it " The _______" doesnt make it anymore high concept of a song than what Cole has done.
Razor is just a WWE verison of the "All sports references to show how lyrical i am" type of song nikkas do
Eye of the tiger is basically just a Wale's version of "Kevins Haryt" which Cole has done.
The Bloom is your typical metaphoric poem comparing women to flowers, which is cliche and has been used in poetry/rap forever. whether slightly touched in a few bars or in a whole song
Chess is pretty cool
goin off what you showed me, he really doesnt. nor is he a better lyricist. hes more willing to carry a whole lyrical theme than cole thru a song or base a whole song off a theme. But doing that does not mean your the better lyricist
Plus alot of those concepts like CC white, Barry sanders, have been reused and have been covered over already by others
those are 3 things that are def factors, but they are not the end all be all to cover someone's ass when they are outdone at everything else. Cole is better at flow, delievery, voice, cadence, songwriting
and creativity and concepts fall more in align with artistry not rapping, you can be dope at rapping and not be a good concept type of artist(Lil wayne, Jay Z)
And concepts dont mean shyt if they are not well executed right, so even if you have a concept, Who fukkin cares if it falls flat on its face and doesnt make for enjoyable music(which is the fukkin point of all this)
even tho im defending Cole, i found KOD initially somewhat subpar even tho it had what you can call a "creative" concept, i didnt like it much. it has grown on me a little tho.
kinda like you ovverating Wale, and his basic ass allegorical concept raps
"OH my god he made a song comparing cocaine to a white girl
"who would have thought of doin that
You took a hot minute to respond. I was expecting you to actually post Cole songs to reinforce your point like I did, rather than an extended cut version of "I don't like Wale"
Aight breh I'm done with this thread. You win
That’s what Big Sean hadMaybe a public relationship with a celebrity?
IDK
Remember when did the fake PR relationship with that Eminem looking girl
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____ exposing themselves
Straight up disrespected Juicy J
I completely forgot about this s***
as a ex‐Wale fan there's just something about dude people don't respect and it's been like that since the start.