WaPo Columnist Jamal Khashoggi killed by Saudis in Turkey; Senators Mull Magnitsky Sanctions

[the cac mamba]

You always surprise me with your bad takes and opinions.

feel free to answer this, instead of just reminding me how much smarter you are

this is all well and good, but the intended outcome of this is going to be what? what are these high and mighty senators suggesting is going to happen for american citizens as a result of their sanctions?

these are the same pieces of shyt that have looked the other way as the american military killed half a million people in iraq, and im supposed to believe they give a fukk about one murdered journalist?

you're gonna tell me with a straight fukking face you want the economy to be disrupted and gas prices to go up over this? really?

 

[Robbie3000]

feel free to answer this, instead of just reminding me how much smarter you are



you're gonna tell me with a straight fukking face you want the economy to be disrupted and gas prices to go up over this? really?

It’s one thing to make pragmatic choices in geo politics, it’s quite another to come to the defense of an obviously guilty scumbag like MBS over your own intelligence community.

That shyt alone is a gross undermining of the country’s institutions.

 

[ORDER_66]

It’s one thing to make pragmatic choices in geo politics, it’s quite another to come to the defense of an obviously guilty scumbag like MBS over your own intelligence community.

That shyt alone is a gross undermining of the country’s institutions.

The saudi's was behind 9/11 fam... and this govt knew... they funded isil and other terrorists groups on the low... and now this... they've BEEN corrupt for years and the american govt has turned a blind eye... ALL because of fukking money...

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The saudi's was behind 9/11 fam... and this govt knew... they funded isil and other terrorists groups on the low... and now this... they've BEEN corrupt for years and the american govt has turned a blind eye... ALL because of fukking money...

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:sheikhmjpls:

 

[thatrapsfan]

Thread getting derailed with conspiracies and bad takes. Please leave the Eric Garland takes in the megathread.

 

[the cac mamba]

It’s one thing to make pragmatic choices in geo politics, it’s quite another to come to the defense of an obviously guilty scumbag like MBS over your own intelligence community.

That shyt alone is a gross undermining of the country’s institutions.

fine but you, too, are avoiding the direct question i asked

 

[thatrapsfan]

this is all well and good, but the intended outcome of this is going to be what? what are these high and mighty senators suggesting is going to happen for american citizens as a result of their sanctions?

these are the same pieces of shyt that have looked the other way as the american military killed half a million people in iraq, and im supposed to believe they give a fukk about one murdered journalist?

Seems like you construct your opinions in the same manner that Trump does - by the gut

It may some intuitive that the Saudis have complete control over oil prices, but it’s not the case anymore. They’re an influential producer because of their spare capacity, but they do not have as much leverage as they did in the 70s. A lot has changed in the international oil market since then. Should they make the extremely unlikely decision to rapidly cut production to jack up oil prices, it will certainly incentivize frackers to increase production. They are able to get online faster than ever, and such a rapid change in price may do permanent damage to Saudis long-term share of the oil market. Put simply, although it may seem intuitive that very high oil prices are good for Saudi, that’s not really the case in the long run.

The Americans have much more leverage over Saudi, than vice-versa, but the way you (and Trump) think you’d think it’s Saudis who control this relationship. Sanctions on MBS - should they ever come - will hardly place America in an existential crisis.

 

[ORDER_66]

Thread getting derailed with conspiracies and bad takes. Please leave the Eric Garland takes in the megathread.

Conspiracies?!? how many times have we said these shyts and years later we've turned out to be correct??? The saudi's was behind 9/11 and a ton of other shyt that's a FACT... everyone knows it but they don't say it...

 

[FaTaL]

Interesting, using the same excuses

 

[the cac mamba]

Seems like you construct your opinions in the same manner that Trump does - by the gut

It may some intuitive that the Saudis have complete control over oil prices, but it’s not the case anymore. They’re an influential producer because of their spare capacity, but they do not have as much leverage as they did in the 70s. A lot has changed in the international oil market since then. Should they make the extremely unlikely decision to rapidly cut production to jack up oil prices, it will certainly incentivize frackers to increase production. They are able to get online faster than ever, and such a rapid change in price may do permanent damage to Saudis long-term share of the oil market. Put simply, although it may seem intuitive that very high oil prices are good for Saudi, that’s not really the case in the long run.

The Americans have much more leverage over Saudi, than vice-versa, but the way you (and Trump) think you’d think it’s Saudis who control this relationship. Sanctions on MBS - should they ever come - will hardly place America in an existential crisis.

it better have some effect on me besides raising prices on the pump. otherwise, i would prefer that we not do it

enjoy your "victory"

 

[Loose]

 

[Gus Money]

At this point he is just trolling. Seems like he intentionally released a crazy statement. IDK how else to explain this mess. Its one thing to double down on his position (not surprising) but what the hell is this gibberish

This looks like it was written by a special ed student. Don’t they have anyone to edit this guy’s rambling, idiotic thoughts???

The use of exclamation marks is just

 

[ZoeGod]

Jared Kushner and Bolton are all behind this. Kushner is close pals with MBS. And Bolton wants war with Iran so he backs Saudi Arabia as part of a coalition to take on Iran. These two voices are the ones Trump listen to the most since he can’t make an original thought on his own.

 

[thatrapsfan]

it better have some effect on me besides raising prices on the pump. otherwise, i would prefer that we not do it

enjoy your "victory"

My victory ? Your reasoning is extremely Trump-like. What do you even disagree with him on? You seem to align with the same extremely Manichean/transactional view of all policy-making.

 

[Copy Ninja]

The saudi's was behind 9/11 fam... and this govt knew... they funded isil and other terrorists groups on the low... and now this... they've BEEN corrupt for years and the american govt has turned a blind eye... ALL because of fukking money...

Obama blocked a bill signed by Congress that would have allowed 911 family victims to sue Saudi Arabia