was Kool Keith/Dr Octagon dissing Craig Mack with "Real Raw" ?

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'real raw' by craig mack came on earlier... the one with the soap opera beat. a few things stood out to me





real raw - dr octagon:

With yellow eyes, my green face, my pink and white afro
I'm no toy kid, your style is made by Hasbro
Gnip Gnop, you think you got that real hip-hop
I soar the chart so quickly, watched your album flop

real raw - craig mack

I can get real raw, plus my style is hardcore
I'm Craig Mack, comin' in at your backdoor
My rhymes hit hard, no games like ping-pong

the hooks are interesting as well

octagon:

i get real raw, change arrangements on your face

mack:

I can get real raw, plus my style is hardcore
Get real raw, plus my style is hardcore

craig macks song is from 94, octagon is from 96.

im definitely spitballing here, but was that a diss? or am i reading too much into it?

 

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asking the coli, because the white people who edit genius.com are really bad at this lol

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(my browser wont load that screenshot. if it shows up as a link, just highlight it, right click, and open link in new tab)

they really want that to be a triple entendre but it aint LOL

like yeah im sure snoop was making references to the French language and sperm

 

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sorry to bump my own thread but i cant find any references to this online outside of one article that mentions craig/keith share a song title

 

[Redwood]

Some were saying he was dissing MF DOOM who was still Zev Love X at the time

 

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'real raw' by craig mack came on earlier... the one with the soap opera beat. a few things stood out to me





real raw - dr octagon:



real raw - craig mack



the hooks are interesting as well

octagon:


mack:



craig macks song is from 94, octagon is from 96.

im definitely spitballing here, but was that a diss? or am i reading too much into it?

Looks like a diss to me.

 

[boogers]

Looks like a diss to me.

obviously craig mack is no longer with us, but im kinda tempted to email keiths manager/agent/whoever to see if they would ask him LOL

craig mack wasnt my favorite rapper or anything, but project funk da world was cool. he was kinda boring on the mic but he had some nice beats. maybe the EPMD guys felt bad for stringing him along so long lmao

apparently craig mack did the 'real raw' beat himself. sampling the 'days of our lives' theme in the mid 90s is pretty ballsy

 

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Some were saying he was dissing MF DOOM who was still Zev Love X at the time

from what i read, keith had beef with doom but that was later on

ive heard a handful of tracks of them together but i dont know if they worked together or an adventurous producer just made it himself

i could kinda see why keith would be mad. he had his dr dooom character going around the time mf doom came out, didnt he?

also after hearing keith's "sex style" album i think he would be a JBO legend

 

[KingsOfKings]

Always Wonder this tbh.

 

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obviously craig mack is no longer with us, but im kinda tempted to email keiths manager/agent/whoever to see if they would ask him LOL

craig mack wasnt my favorite rapper or anything, but project funk da world was cool. he was kinda boring on the mic but he had some nice beats. maybe the EPMD guys felt bad for stringing him along so long lmao

apparently craig mack did the 'real raw' beat himself. sampling the 'days of our lives' theme in the mid 90s is pretty ballsy

I think Kool Keith didn't need a reason to throw a diss on a track

 

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I think Kool Keith didn't need a reason to throw a diss on a track

yeah keith is wild. i think its a tragedy that him and ol dirty never did a track together. i think their styles together couldve been awesome

 

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yeah keith is wild. i think its a tragedy that him and ol dirty never did a track together. i think their styles together couldve been awesome

ODB should've been on one of the tracks from the Sex Style album

 

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ODB should've been on one of the tracks from the Sex Style album

from my googles it looks like keith and ODB linked up (after ODB got out of prison) and recorded a song together for WWE

im gonna look it up and listen


EDIT: hold up... mystikal and ras kass??? ok i gotta look this up lol

 

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from my googles it looks like keith and ODB linked up (after ODB got out of prison) and recorded a song together for WWE

im gonna look it up and listen

 

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its pretty bad lmao

and its so unfitting for MANKIND. this mighta worked for Dude Love!

 

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its pretty bad lmao

and its so unfitting for MANKIND. this mighta worked for Dude Love!

It's a bit random. The wiki says

Writer Stephen Thomas Erlewine proposed that "since [the album] is targeted at [WWF's] male adolescent audience, it's just thuggish without being particularly inventive."[1] He highlighted the track "Wreck" by Kool Keith and Ol' Dirty b*stard, but also claimed that it "doesn't really live up to expectations."

I agree with the bolded