oh cap put up 40 in a finals game? Michael AVERAGED 41 throughout an entire finals series.You think Cap missed that entire 1980s NBA finals, don't you?
You really didn't know that Cap put up 40 and 15 in Game 5, don't you?
try again.
Was MJ really that much better than Kareem??
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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Man averaged some 34/14 with almost 5 blocks per game that series. He missed game 6 and still had 38 more points on the series than magic.You think Cap missed that entire 1980s NBA finals, don't you?
You really didn't know that Cap put up 40 and 15 in Game 5, don't you?
YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy
Superstar
Kareem with/without HOF pgs:
1973-1974(Oscar Robertson's last year): 59-23
1974-1975: 38-44
1978-1979: 47-35
1979-1980(magic's rookie yr): 60-22(championship)
1988-1989(kareem's final yr):57-25
1989-1990: 63-19
I like this game
GOAT winner yall. "He won in preschool, he won in grade school"..stfu. Dude wasnt doing shyt without the GOAT pgs spoonfeeding his ass.
And wilt punched his shyt twice in one sequence as a
40 year old
1973-1974(Oscar Robertson's last year): 59-23
1974-1975: 38-44
1978-1979: 47-35
1979-1980(magic's rookie yr): 60-22(championship)
1988-1989(kareem's final yr):57-25
1989-1990: 63-19
I like this game
GOAT winner yall
. "He won in preschool, he won in grade school"..stfu. Dude wasnt doing shyt without the GOAT pgs spoonfeeding his ass.And wilt punched his shyt twice in one sequence as a
40 year old
HOW MANY FINALS DID HE LOSE?
HOW MANY FINALS MVPS DOES HE HAVE?
HOW MANY DPOY AWARDS DOES HE HAVE?
HOW MANY SCORING TITLES
DOES THE ALL TIME LEADING SCORER HAVE?
The DPOY award didn't even exist until 1983.
Kareem led the league in blocks 4 times and they didn't even count blocks during his first four seasons, so he probably really led the league in blocks 6 to 8 times. He averaged 3+ blocks/game every single year until he was 33 years old (when he "fell" to 2.9 blocks/game), and he was averaging 15-16 rebounds a game most of those years too. If the DPOY award existed in the 1970s, Kareem would have 4-5 of them at least, maybe more.
Talking about Finals lost, when MJ lost in the first round, is typical Coli rock-brain status.
And yeah, Kareem "only" has two scoring titles, so what? George Gervin, Allen Iverson, and Kevin Durant are tied for 3rd-most scoring titles in NBA history with four each. George Mikan, Neil Johnston, and Bob McAdoo are next with three each. Bob Petitt, Adrian Dantley, and Westbrook have two each. That sound like anyone's top-ten list to you? Meanwhile Magic, Russell, Bird, Duncan, and Hakeem don't have a single scoring title between them. Scoring titles are the most irrelevant measure of overall greatest you can find.
The only relevant measure you included was Kareem's lack of NBA Finals MVPs. Kareem only won a single title before Magic took over the Lakers, and Kareem was great for those teams the first six years but he clearly wasn't in charge. That's the biggest knock on his overall legacy and the main reason I put him behind MJ and Lebron.
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Sorry for bumping this I ment to put that in the random thoughts thread and I had the wrong tab open and accidentally posted in here. I looked up this thread just to see if there where any takes on Kareem having an argument over MJ on here. It's something I've had on my mind for a while now
I ment to put that in the random thoughts thread and I had the wrong tab open and accidentally posted in here. I looked up this thread just to see if there where any takes on Kareem having an argument over MJ on here. It's something I've had on my mind for a while now
HAHAHATHIS fakkit LITERALLY QUOTED ME
AND TYPED ALL THAT BULLshyt
JUST TO SLIP BRONS NAME INTO THIS DISCUSSION.
CarbonBraddock
You will be trolled
I used to be like most people and say it was MJ, and i still have him as the best player i've ever seen play, but KAJ was just on another level completely. It is incredible how he won at every level and wracked up all kinds of accolades over like thirty years. Even the qualms you can have with his career are minor at best because he was just that good (him in milwaukee). To me personally, i feel like I would take KAJ to start a franchise with because you generally want a big man even though MJ was the asterisk to that historically. I do think that MJ would go into any era and if you picked him as your first player, you could put pretty much anyone around him and that's a playoff team though.
So, what are you getting over MJ with Kareem? Someone who scores even better, someone who defends better, and bigs are better defenders to begin with since they can anchor the defense, someone who will give you superior longevity, someone with a more unstoppable shot than the fadeaway, all this in a legit 7 foot frame. At this point, I feel like the only real argument for MJ is that he MAY have played tougher competition to get his accolades, but that does not really hold much weight with me. But anyway, I still consider jordan to be my personal goat from who i saw play, but i think that kareem is the best ever when it's all said and done. Discuss.
So, what are you getting over MJ with Kareem? Someone who scores even better, someone who defends better, and bigs are better defenders to begin with since they can anchor the defense, someone who will give you superior longevity, someone with a more unstoppable shot than the fadeaway, all this in a legit 7 foot frame. At this point, I feel like the only real argument for MJ is that he MAY have played tougher competition to get his accolades, but that does not really hold much weight with me. But anyway, I still consider jordan to be my personal goat from who i saw play, but i think that kareem is the best ever when it's all said and done. Discuss.
Bill Russell >
Supreme365
Superstar
Kareem wasn’t a better scorer than mj
Mj took over games in ways that you rarely see and what truly separates him is how he elevated his game in the playoffs
He never underwhelmed he doesn’t have a “tragic Johnson”, “bron in 2011”, or “Kobe in 06” moment
He was damn near the perfect player
Mj took over games in ways that you rarely see and what truly separates him is how he elevated his game in the playoffs
He never underwhelmed he doesn’t have a “tragic Johnson”, “bron in 2011”, or “Kobe in 06” moment
He was damn near the perfect player