Was the attack on Disco racially motivated?

[Oceanicpuppy]

Maybe people who can't dance don't like disco.


You could only hear disco on the black radio stations at one point in time.


Until the BeeGees aka the disco version of Elvis

Very eye opening.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Sorry guys I never did research into disco

And every time there was something about disco on TV it usually involved a homo cac with residue under his nose

They basically Elvisized it so don't feel bad. Disco has the same story of Rock and Roll in many ways.

 

[Ol’Otis]

They basically Elvisized it so don't feel bad. Disco has the same story of Rock and Roll in many ways.

They'll be doing it to R&B and Hip Hop in a minute

We gotta learn how to preserve our shyt

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

I'll kill a CAC

Yeah makes you realizes white people weren't feeling black music like that.

These people claiming that white people appreciated black music like that is revisionist history. Yeah their were white people who liked the music but their were many who didn't.

 

[Houston911]

hiphop grabbed the younger "hood" cats who liked disco but couldn't get into those more middle class, clubs. HipHop is largely an offshoot of Disco

..those oldschool pioneering HipHop Dj's all played and listened to Disco

Great post

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Looping a breakbeat isn't Hip Hop music...

That's literally called Breakbeat...

The first formation of Hip Hop started in the 70s, but the creation of a Hip Hop music as a commericial artform instead of a breakbeat looped at block parties in NYC and on the radio started with Rappers Delight...which came out in 1979 on the tail end of Disco and is really an abbreration on how early Hip Hop sounded like when it became mass consumed.

Afrika Bambatta dropped his first album in 1983, Grandmaster Flash dropped in 1982, Whodini dropped in 1983...which sounded nothing like Disco but was Electro which coincided with Kraftwerk dropping their electronic albums during the mid to late 70s.

The 808 Electro-Funk sound is more of a true representation of what Hip Hop music initially sound like instead of a loop of Apache.

I realize the history of all that but thats really irrelevant. Extending a break beat is exactly what hip hop is.Even if hip hop wasn't commercially viable until Rappers Delight the music still existed they just weren't singing deals with labels. Rappers Delight wasn't even made by people who were active in the culture. And lo and behold what was it?: a disco loop. All this wouldn't be possible if disco DJs didn't use two turntables. Like somebody else said earlier in the thread. Hip hop was just the kids who couldn't get into the discos

 

[Bonk]

hiphop grabbed the younger "hood" cats who liked disco but couldn't get into those more middle class, clubs. HipHop is largely an offshoot of Disco

..those oldschool pioneering HipHop Dj's all played and listened to Disco

Thanks for the heads up. The reason why I said that is because a lot of the early hip-hop songs sampled disco, before making a transition to R&B and other genres of music. Also, I remember watching a documentary on Netflix about the history of hip-hop and how most of the early hip-hop DJs were Disco DJs and how hip-hop got its break in the disco scene.

I need to pick your brain more often because you seem to have vast knowledge in a lot of things. Thanks, breh.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Disco died before Hip Hop came along.

no it didn't

Disco became Dance music, Hip Hop, House, Techno, and Boogie...

facts

The problem with disco was...

White rock crowd hated it...

not all of the white crowd....just many straight male rockist types who were into shyt like hardrock

It was formulaic....

not really but if you wanted to make the most generic disco, this held true

Everybody started doing it...

true

It was expensive to make...

true

Disco was like trap music today...you know how everybody got an 808 bass and a trap snare on their single...

yes and no but this is no different from majority of pop/mainstream music having a back beat

Well that was 4 to the floor beat...

not all disco had that beat

Once the Rolling Stones made I Am Missing You that was the nail in coffin for the White rock crowd...




And it didn't help two years before that the wildly successful song Disco Duck came out which proved nobody really gave a fukk about the content of a disco song as long as it sounds good...which led to a radio boycott.

somewhat true

 

[Unknown Poster]

EDM is going to end the same way.

A prediction.
But it's already been beyond white washed.

And look at Saturday Night Fever...that movie is racist as fukk. Yet it's hailed as an "American Classic"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Sorry guys I never did research into disco

And every time there was something about disco on TV it usually involved a homo cac with residue under his nose

that's that studio 54 imgae of disco lol. This is how disco really was

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm sure some of the artist you listen to infused Disco or Disco elements in their music. Some of their stuff is straight up Disco.

Sister Sledge
Diana Ross
Micheal Jackson ( The Jacksons )
Chic
Evelyn "Champagne" King
Earth Wind and Fire
Kool and the Gang
Rick James
Etc...

All have some form of Disco tracks and or albums

You just didn't realize or know you were listening to disco.

facts

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Pull up







And yes I Want You (Marvin Gaye) has disco influence in it

disco is just funk/r&B with the 4/4 groove and/or lush and extended grooves. before Disco had a name these were being played in the clubs that became disco clubs



^^see how the vocals drops out at 3:43 and becomes an extended groove? Early foundation for the Disco sound


this too by the temptations....



and the main blueprint




....these songs came out before disco was an actual subgenre but are the songs that were played in the clubs that gave birth to disco

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yeah makes you realizes white people weren't feeling black music like that.

These people claiming that white people appreciated black music like that is revisionist history.

I wouldn't say that. I would say whites who didn't have a rockist mentality had no problem with black music. The rockist white crowd would jack from the black music but would like the white rock bands that performed/implemented the influence(s) over the OG black source.

Yeah their were white people who liked the music but their were many who didn't.

see above

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

disco is just funk/r&B with the 4/4 groove and/or lush and extended grooves. before Disco had a name these were being played in the clubs that became disco clubs



^^see how the vocals drops out at 3:43 and becomes an extended groove? Early foundation for the Disco sound


this too by the temptations....



and the main blueprint




....these songs came out before disco was an actual subgenre but are the songs that were played in the clubs that gave birth to disco

Also add The O'jays - Love Train

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I think the backlash for disco was because it got too big too fast and it because over saturated. Artists who weren't disco started making disco songs. Commercials were disco. Fashion was disco. It didn't help that it was viewed as the music of minorities and gays

that and the rock guys/fans were mad that disco was taking their shine