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Yeah I know that there is a official math Hoffa thread but I felt like this need it own stand alone thread. For discussion.
"WAS THERE A CONSPIRACY TO GET RID OF CONSCIOUS RAP???" | DJ RED ALERT GIVES US THE HISTORY...
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Piff Perkins
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No. Kids and teenagers gravitate to more subversive shyt, across art mediums. It's why if your parents didn't let you watch R-rated movies you tried to sneak watch them. If you found porn as a kid, you hid it so you could look at it. In the 60s-90s rock kept getting more and more subversive. More drug content, and later more violence. I don't think it's shocking that rapping about killing people and fukking bytches is far more enticing to teenage boys than rapping about Afrocentricity or learning.
Once NWA showed that rap could sell as much as rock, it was over for positive shyt. There is no conspiracy about the market deciding based on popularity/sales/etc. Things are probably more balanced now in the since that most of the biggest rappers, if not the biggest, aren't making gangster music (Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Travis, Uzi, etc).
Once NWA showed that rap could sell as much as rock, it was over for positive shyt. There is no conspiracy about the market deciding based on popularity/sales/etc. Things are probably more balanced now in the since that most of the biggest rappers, if not the biggest, aren't making gangster music (Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Travis, Uzi, etc).
IllmaticDelta
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SleezyBigSlim
Banned
A cac that used to be a musician told me the labels mostly push the gangster rap for propaganda and profits, they dont want black people doing thier own distribution they wouldn't need the labels if they did.
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I gravitated moreso towards the artsy/intellectual shyt like Outkast, Common, The Roots, Fugees, etc. as a teen.
shyt i thought the smart, college type kids was listening to.
You gravitate to what you donโt have easy access to as a teen.
Kenny West
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This logic is total bullshyt.
You don't see this dynamic you described across other musical genres, or other cultures (without influence of modern rap), nor has it been a consistent dynamic in any other time period lifetime.
Blues didn't get more subverisve and violent, neither did motown, neither does Kpop or Citypop.
Hell, if you checked on rock past that cherrypicked time pocket you would see it got less subversive/more soft & poppy as the 2000s got later and moved into the 2010s.
Of course it was 
To believe otherwise means you have not the slightest knowledge of past history.
Rap music was hijacked and WEAPONIZED against the black community mainly as a propaganda tool as someone in here has already mentioned.
Rap Music is a continuation of Minstrel Shows of the past:
Rap Music is an updated version of Minstrel Shows being used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of blacks to a worldwide audience, which is why the main image of rappers pushed are gangbangers, thugs and drugdealers.
And the people doing the pushing and funding look like this:
Again, if you deny this, all I can do is assume you have zero awareness of past history.
To believe otherwise means you have not the slightest knowledge of past history.
Rap music was hijacked and WEAPONIZED against the black community mainly as a propaganda tool as someone in here has already mentioned.
Rap Music is a continuation of Minstrel Shows of the past:
Rap Music is an updated version of Minstrel Shows being used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of blacks to a worldwide audience, which is why the main image of rappers pushed are gangbangers, thugs and drugdealers.
And the people doing the pushing and funding look like this:
Again, if you deny this, all I can do is assume you have zero awareness of past history.
Thats giving the labels too much credit. The labels chase the money at the end of the day
Most drill artists are poppin like a mf and never been heard of by a label. This ain't 1999. Plenty of nikkas eating just off YouTube and shows
The thing is the people that listen to the genres you just listed also listen to rap
Hip hop is the outlet for subversion, violence and rebellion
SleezyBigSlim
Banned
White men own all those distribution platforms you mentioned. That's the entire point. Gives you nikkas the illusion of freedom when infact you have none
I'm not under any illusion of freedom but nikkas gotta stop the one sided shyt
Violent music ain't just being forced onto people. The consumers LOVE the shyt and nobody wants to say this out loud.
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