Was Trunks deleting 17 & 18 the GOAT payback scene is cartoon history?

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Kamikaze Revy said:
Not to derail the thread but Naruto took a sharp dive with Shippuden. The original series was all about tactics and figuring out your opponents weakness. It was incredible. Shippuden quickly fell into the tired formula of powering up and fighting a seemingly unstoppable opponent. They tried a little bit to get the magic back with Jiraiya figuring out who Pain really was, but in the end, I felt cheated. He sacrificed his own life to send a message that when you think about it, was really of no consequence. In they end they still had to deal with the puppets first, which they would have done regardless if Jiraiya died or not. If anything, Jiraiya should have went back to Konohoa and got everyone ready for the fight. Things would have ended much quicker.
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@Kamikaze Revy for POTY :wow: i agree with so much shyt you been posting i drop Naruto after watching the first Shippuden EP
 
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"THIS IS FOR GOHAN!"

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I'm late as hell Breh I know but I never watched these as a kid and the only ones I can find are on Hulu and not dubbed into English do you know where I can catch these episodes?
 
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Sterling Archer said:
Piccolo was food to Vegeta at that point.:francis:
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:patrice: That's kinda debatable cuz both him and Vegeta were kinda even at the end of that Frieza fight. Piccolo surpassed him at the time when he fused with Nail. Then Vegeta caught up again when Dende healed him from near death. Then Vegeta was wished alive before touching back down on Earth, so that power up might have given him the edge. But I don't think it would've been as one sided. Plus Piccolo had no reason to really fight Vegeta on Earth after they teamed up and all. Tho that lil beat down he put on Gohan did tempt him I bet.

But power levels are bullshyt :lolbron:
 
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King Koopa said:
:patrice: That's kinda debatable cuz both him and Vegeta were kinda even at the end of that Frieza fight. Piccolo surpassed him at the time when he fused with Nail. Then Vegeta caught up again when Dende healed him from near death. Then Vegeta was wished alive before touching back down on Earth, so that power up might have given him the edge. But I don't think it would've been as one sided. Plus Piccolo had no reason to really fight Vegeta on Earth after they teamed up and all. Tho that lil beat down he put on Gohan did tempt him I bet.

But power levels are bullshyt :lolbron:
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You arent recalling it correctly probably. Piccolo beat King Cole Frieza after he fused with Nail then Frieza transformed to Alien-looking Frieza and gave Piccolo that work. Vegeta was stronger than both Piccolo and 3rd transformation Frieza after his Dende zenkai. Once Frieza did his final form, Vegeta powered up and Piccolo got mad about Vegeta being the only one able to react to Frieza when he killed Dende and chose not to and commented on how much stronger Vegeta was and how powerful his zenkai made him. Piccolo was stronger when he fused with Nail but not stronger than him after Vegeta got his zenkai. It was a pretty big gap at that point. Piccolo didnt get stronger than the saiyans again until he fused with Kami. Pretty sure thats how the timeline works out. Could be wrong though.
 
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