Washed or wait: who's done & who still has a chance

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Cole is done as one of the hottest guys in rap. Only his Stans are consuming his music atp. The causal J Cole fans have moved on

How are we measuring any of this? His last album went platinum. If my "core stan base" is over a million people, I say that alone goes against me being stale/washed.
 

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6lack been dropping albums since 2016 - that boy washed

Khalid popped in an unexpected way, agree, he's done, Steve Lacy gonna got he same way as Khalid, in two years, he'll be "remember bad habits" status
6lack last album was successful tho. I think he still make noise

I truly believe any artist that received a huge push like Normani and flopped is done. I don’t think the labels are giving out 2nd chances like that these days

I agree with you on Latto. Look at her last 3 song releases(2 remakes and a pop song) she’s super desperate right now.
 

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How are we measuring any of this? His last album went platinum. If my "core stan base" is over a million people, I say that alone goes against me being stale/washed.
Cole has a huge and loyal stanbase. He’s going to sell well over time.

The off-season had a huge first week and fell off the charts with no songs that had a lasting impact.
 

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I’m just here to say I enjoyed Meek’s last album.
Still have several tracks in rotation.
The problem with Meek is that he’s the type of artist that’s need a huge budget to produce. Just like Khaled and French Montana. No label is willing to advance him that type of money today because they don’t think the return is there
 

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Cole is done as one of the hottest guys in rap. Only his Stans are consuming his music atp. The causal J Cole fans have moved on
He's still doing top 5 of the year, multiplatinum numbers if he drops today. Any perceived lack of buzz Cole has right now is only because people are waiting for more music, not that they don't care about him anymore.
 

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this is just the game for music right now and the foreseeable future, i don't think we'll have many full blown, "everyone tapped in" type stars. it's too easy to curate an ecosystem of music that focuses specifically on only what you like. everything is fragmented
People keep missing or refusing to accept this

Y'all looking for the next universal superstar and shyt don't work like that anymore. Social media has created an environment where everyone having their own house party. There's no one big ass house anymore
 

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The problem with Meek is that he’s the type of artist that’s need a huge budget to produce. Just like Khaled and French Montana. No label is willing to advance him that type of money today because they don’t think the return is there

I agree that the machine isn’t behind him anymore. He’s going to have to do more mixtapes and features. Maybe find an artist to sign that he can vampire like all the other rappers do.
 

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OP you mean washed commercially or creatively?
commercially - they not gonna ring off when they drop
Don't agree Big Sean
what makes you have faith in sean? he aint really popped since 2018, what's gonna have him charting in 2023/2024? his peers kendrick and cole already did the millennials are maturing raps (marriage, mental health, kids), while other peers like drake and future keeping fukkboi music alive...what's he got to offer to break out of their shadows, that's he's always been in, in 2023?
 
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