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they want to play here. The problem is that the Wizards run the franchise like its Minneapolis or Milwaukee.

Perkins is garbage, and his defense is overrated.

What do you want to do moving forward then?????

Bring the same players back and hope nene stays healthy?????

No Guarantee nene even finishes the season :beli:


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What do you want to do moving forward then?????

Bring the same players back and hope nene stays healthy?????

No Guarantee nene even finishes the season :beli:


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you know what I want, Wittman and Grunfeld gone this summer.

While I dont like Okafor and Ariza, they both expire in 2014. Its better to keep them and let them walk for free instead of trying to make another bad move. (and why would OKC even want an Okafor?)

Give a new GM the keys to the 2014 FA market and that pot of cap space we will have.

IF we make the playoffs next year and Wall plays on the trajectory that he is currently playing towards, then that will attract someone. Def not Lebron or Wade, but we can get a second tier FA.

I would re-sign Webster to a contract that is around what Ariza is currently getting per season for 3 years. If someone offers more then let him walk. Wall needs more shooters around him and Webster is good, but do not break the bank for him.

Whatever pick we get in the draft, BPA. I dont want a project, just take the best player on the board. Even if it means we have Webster and Shabazz is on the board.
 

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If we trade Okafor, we need to get a big who can rebound back because Seraphin is a horrible rebounder and Nene boxes out but he doesn't get many boards himself

Okafor is a reason for the defensive success but he obviously is no long term solution

The other idea is trade Okafor for a shooter at the wing position. I'd also trade Booker and Crawford for something... Maybe a pick.

At this point I'd be happy drafting Zeller or Noel if we are in the top 3 because those guys will rebound and play defense. Seraphin's post defense is great but his off ball defense is just mind lowing inconsistent and again, this guy won't rebound. All he does is shoot and shoot. He's another young player who has mentally regressed for some reason.

I think 2014 is the year this team has to make organizational change. Wall will be a restricted free agent as well as Seraphin, Booker, and Crawford. There will be cap filexibility to make a move and resign Wall. However, we need new blood in terms of the GM and HC.

My top candidate for GM is Troy Weaver who is Presti's right hand man in OKC (he's also from Upper Marlboro and had a hand in Seattle w/ Durant and Green in 2007 draft)

My top HC candidate is Dave Joerger who is in Memphis on Lionel Hollins bench. He's the most successful minor league coach ever (topping Phil Jackson and Larry Brown). He'd preach defense and he can also assemble a staff to develop Wall especially with the mechanics on his jump shot. Just look at how Mike Conley Jr's jump shot has improved the last few seasons including his ability to hit 3s.
 

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For the past couple seasons Joe has easily rectified most of the crucial mistakes he has made, the upside on how good the team can be now is at a high level.

I wanna see what he does with this cap space and another lottery pick before i give him a pass.

The Wizards already beat the Heat without Wall:beli:



The Wizards are a really good defensive team, and have been this entire season. :beli:

The Bulls actually have good players without Rose. The Wizards do not.

The Wizards have more talent without Wall than the Spurs do without Parker, Duncan, Ginobili and Green. :upsetfavre:
 

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If Ariza was making $3-4 million instead of $7-8 million I wouldn't mind.

If Okafor was making $7-8 million instead of $14 million. I wouldn't mind that either.
 

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breh, did you just compare 4 players to one? :mindblown:

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You said the Wiz beat Miami without Wall when i said SA almost beat them without their four best players.

If Washington is already a good defensive team, something young squads usually aren't, they already have a higher ceiling than those Arenas teams. If they add one more legit scoring option in the draft, they'll have a good foundation.
 

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You said the Wiz beat Miami without Wall when i said SA almost beat them without their four best players.

If Washington is already a good defensive team, something young squads usually aren't, they already have a higher ceiling than those Arenas teams. If they add one more legit scoring option in the draft, they'll have a good foundation.

If Muhammad was a SF, I'd be all over him for us to draft. We need a scoring swing man who can get his own shot.

Thing with Muhammad is he needs to work on other aspects of his game.

I wish this was 2014 and we had a shot at Wiggins.
 

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You said the Wiz beat Miami without Wall when i said SA almost beat them without their four best players.

If Washington is already a good defensive team, something young squads usually aren't, they already have a higher ceiling than those Arenas teams. If they add one more legit scoring option in the draft, they'll have a good foundation.

a) its not a one-off sport. Miami almost lost to a Spurs team without 4 Spurs starters. The Heat lost to a Wizards teams without Wall and with Nene only playing 17 minutes.

b) If Popovich uses that squad and beats the Heat in a best of 7 series, then I would go :lawd:. Doing it in a November regular season game makes me go.:ehh:

The Wizards are a good defensive team, and I give Wittman credit for that. But the team's cap is a 6th/7th seed as it is currently constructed and with a good coach. Its not doing anything beyond that.
 

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a) its not a one-off sport. Miami almost lost to a Spurs team without 4 Spurs starters. The Heat lost to a Wizards teams without Wall and with Nene only playing 17 minutes.

b) If Popovich uses that squad and beats the Heat in a best of 7 series, then I would go :lawd:. Doing it in a November regular season game makes me go.:ehh:

The Wizards are a good defensive team, and I give Wittman credit for that. But the team's cap is a 6th/7th seed as it is currently constructed and with a good coach. Its not doing anything beyond that.

We'll revisit this in a year. You sound like me when it comes to the Lions. I don't blame you. :ehh:
 

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LOL at the Whitman hate

Dude is MVP at the halfway point. He never had those bums quit and play hard every night. Dude should get another extension not fired
:whoa: Another season is premature at this point. Whittman has shown good and bad coaching. I'm assuming he held Singleton out because we was about to trade him for Rudy Gay.. he was struggling a little bit around that time before we shut him down. He came back out the next day after the trade so I'm not gonna blame Randy for that. But Randy hasn't shown to me that he can take this team any farther than what Mastermind thinks this team can go...
fukk Andray Blatche.

Glad I got to tell that fakkit we needed to trade him to his face :pacspit:
You watch your ghat damn mouth :damn:
Dray day was my manz, and the way the crowd was acting yesterday?
Thats how they acted when he was here. There is no reason to act like that to one of your own players. But we did. So how could you expect him to shine when we shytted on him like we did?
He never had a contract like Okafor/Ariza/Lewis/Arenas or any other cap hurting player. We had him at a crazy discount, and shytted on him even tho he played on a team that played like shyt with or without him.
Maybe Blatche wasn't the problem :leon:
The Wizards are the 6th best defensive team in the league. With Wall back, we have been the #1 defense in the entire NBA the last 16 games. The recordin those 16 games is 9-7. Now I know the argument is that with Wall and Nene this team is a playoff team. I'll buy that. But that doesn't mean they'd do shid in the postseason and that would be this roster's ceiling. Just like the Arenas/Jamison/Butler (and Larry Hughes in 2004-2005) led teams from 2005-2008... where they went to the 2nd round once and printed 2nd round T-Shirts after beating the Bulls in one series :snoop: and then losing to the Cavs 3 straight years.

I'll give Wittman credit for having these guys playing and not giving up when they were 5-28. But the offense is the problem and that falls on players not developing, scheme, and the crappy moves made by Grunfeld in just drafting a bunch of guys who can't shoot. I'd say out of all the draft picks, Booker has improved his shot the most but he's not going to develop into anything, plus they try to play him at the 3 when he's just an undersized 4.
Your first problem is your comparing this team to those Arenas lead teams which were totally different teams. Wall gets into the paint similar to Gil, but our Bigmen actually play basketball which is something new to DC. Last capable big man we had was Ben fukking Wallace.. Then Chris Webber/J.Howard
Jamison can also get a nob, but most didn't like his style (outside of DC)
Our team has depth.. we just don't have a proper Captatin. Maybe we need to have Garrett Temple come off the bench for Wall, Crawford for Beal.
I think Ariza should start at the 3 and Webster would be the that spark on the 2nd team that isn't there. Seraphin needs to continue to pick up moves fom Nene so he can be Nene 2.0 out there (and he's becoming that quickly)
Vesely can be a backup center when we need a tall body. Or chris singleton can play the PF position cuz that nikka is getting big :hula:
The Wizards ain't shyt. They lost to the Kings twice. : troll:
You watch your ghat damn mouth :damn:
 

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Maybe Monty Williams if he gets tired in New Orleans


Wizards will probably hire Avery Johnson, knowing how they are.
I wouldn't mind Avery Johnson. But would rather have Jeff or Stan.
What about Gary Williams who is basically just waiting for Ted Leonsis to give him the job Gary Williams told John Feinstein he’d take the Wizards job
What do you want to do moving forward then?????

Bring the same players back and hope nene stays healthy?????

No Guarantee nene even finishes the season :beli:
Thats exactly what I want us to do. Real teams have that in common.
There core players stay, and they don't have to worry about fans/media calling for there heads everytime they touch the ball. A nurturing environment that creates stars instead of ridiculing them. We've only damaged all of the one's we get. Then we blame the Franchise :what:
Thats why you hearing all these dudes bad mouth Dray and his 3mil a year salary...
breh, did you just compare 4 players to one? :mindblown:
Using your logic, those 4 players are old as fukk and are overpaid. Lets trade them Okafor/Ariza style before its too late!!!
If Ariza was making $3-4 million instead of $7-8 million I wouldn't mind.

If Okafor was making $7-8 million instead of $14 million. I wouldn't mind that either.
Kwame Brown was making 8mil last year, is making close to 3mil this year.
Okafor has proved he is worth.. 7-8-10mil. If this team was winning more you could argue the 14. This team isn't 14-35 because of Okafor, its because of who we had on our team during the first 30gms this season.
If we healthy next year, and we finish with a GOOD record? How much will everybody be worth?
This is a lost season for real, you can't really judge how much they worth cuz we playing like BEAST right now and even I can't comfortably say somebody is worth such n such. All I know is I like the players we have.
Don't think we need another nothin. Our shooter is Bradley Beal
Ariza and Webster have been killing the 3pt shots.. Beal adds to that.
We got shooters now. We need a 2nd team that can run with the 1st teams of this league. Then the skies the limit. Randy got 2 weeks to figure that out, or he's not the answer going forward imo...
 

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Just glad we headed in the right direction even though this was basically a wasted season
 
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