We are the Joneses - The Official Texas Longhorns Athletics Thread

[Numpsay]

What happened at Coach Strong's presser today? I've been purposely avoiding Twitter.

-He's been told he will be evaluated after TCU.
-He believes that a decision has not been made.
-The players will not boycott. There was a report the players would boycott the game Saturday. Per Charlie-They need to go get a win so they can take the seniors to a bowl game.
-He will never say wins are not important, but developing young men is super important.
-Brett Bielema sent him a super nice text praising his leadership skills.
-If the kids see him get through this, they will know that they can get through things.
-They will practice and conduct business as usual.
-Football team showed up to the presser, gave Charlie an applause at the end, and apparently ate up all the wings meant for the media. To be fair, they were from Pluckers.

 

[dtownreppin214]

 

[The Villain]

so if texas smashes tcu he keeps his job?

because that seems to be the PR situation the administration has gotten themselves in.

 

[jay211]

so if texas smashes tcu he keeps his job?

because that seems to be the PR situation the administration has gotten themselves in.

I'm telling you. They don't want Saban 2.0 with Herman. And it's not worth bringing in anyone but Herman or a huge name. If they can't get Herman and beat TCU, they may as well keep Strong. Fenves is thinking about the racial climate as well. You have the FIRST BLACK COACH at TEXAS and he's beyond a good man. He cleaned up discipline issues and has been providing guidance to young men off the football field. How bad does it look, UT fires Strong because some racist ENTITLED RICH WHITE MEN, never wanted him in the beginning? Especially if they can't bring in a higher caliber coach? It could be a PR nightmare.

If you can't get Herman, better to protect your ass PR wise and give the first black coach 4 years. If he fails next year, no one can complain if he gets fired.

But you can't fire Strong for Larry Fedora, who is unproven in many eyes. Only Herman or a HUGE NAME will do. So the President is in a rough spot. HIGH PROFILE black recruits could stop coming to TEXAS, if this isn't handled properly, setting us back a decade. I'm sure plenty of black parents are watching how this plays out carefully.

As a black man, I want Strong to get one more year to prove himself. But that Kansas loss was rough. I'd rather see year 4 of Strong than year 1 of Fedora or Hugh Freeze.

 

[Numpsay]

You know as fans, black fans, I think we have to be responsible here. Charlie's performance merits him getting fired alone, without any other factors coming into play. 7-5 would have secured his job for another year, 7-5!!!!!! And he couldn't do that. I mean, I really wanted this to work for Charlie, the impact of a black man being a successful head coach at a university like Texas would mean a lot but at this point I can't defend him getting another year, the KSU loss I can excuse but not the Kansas one. I'm sorry, but it's time for him to go, and people need to stop with the extracurricular excuses. Dude only needed to win 7 games this year and he failed. Those "racist rich white men" would have accepted the 4th year with those results.

 

[rantanamo]

You know as fans, black fans, I think we have to be responsible here. Charlie's performance merits him getting fired alone, without any other factors coming into play. 7-5 would have secured his job for another year, 7-5!!!!!! And he couldn't do that. I mean, I really wanted this to work for Charlie, the impact of a black man being a successful head coach at a university like Texas would mean a lot but at this point I can't defend him getting another year, the KSU loss I can excuse but not the Kansas one. I'm sorry, but it's time for him to go, and people need to stop with the extracurricular excuses. Dude only needed to win 7 games this year and he failed. Those "racist rich white men" would have accepted the 4th year with those results.

I have no problem with that, but jay is right, you can't fire him before 4 years if you can't get Herman, Petersen of someone like Balt Harbaugh or Chip Kelly. You may even have a problem luring someone because this is the second time the BMDs have been acting in their own interests. Texas has a lot of advantages but its not worth all the crazy to most personalities when they have options. And no those "racist rich white men" would not have accepted 7 wins. Why you think I got out of Texas Exes and stop going to games. I had heard enough of that shyt. They never wanted him from the beginning. They continuously talked about removing him as soon as he got to UT and balked about him not having the experience necessary to be coaching at UT. Herman does? Fukk outta here with that. Herman may get hired and be the next great one, but don't give me that bullshyt double standard. Just say what you think. Like I said in another thread, I hope this shyt blows up in our face and we end up with some 5th tier coach. To me its not about Strong's performance. He probably should be fired after next season if they don't improve, or this year if you are impatient. Its the BMD behavior, and non-support of our coach, black or white or whatever. This job is not good enough for all that bullshyt that's going on. Our conference sucks and they themselves aren't going to pay much more than most of these guys are already making. Not to mention the whiny azz high school coaches in Texas. We are A&M circa 2003 and we don't even realize it.

 

[Yogi]

Why do people keep talking about how good of a man Strong is? Wasn't he fukking a Louisville booster's wife?

 

[dtownreppin214]

I have no problem with that, but jay is right, you can't fire him before 4 years if you can't get Herman, Petersen of someone like Balt Harbaugh or Chip Kelly. You may even have a problem luring someone because this is the second time the BMDs have been acting in their own interests. Texas has a lot of advantages but its not worth all the crazy to most personalities when they have options. And no those "racist rich white men" would not have accepted 7 wins. Why you think I got out of Texas Exes and stop going to games. I had heard enough of that shyt. They never wanted him from the beginning. They continuously talked about removing him as soon as he got to UT and balked about him not having the experience necessary to be coaching at UT. Herman does? Fukk outta here with that. Herman may get hired and be the next great one, but don't give me that bullshyt double standard. Just say what you think. Like I said in another thread, I hope this shyt blows up in our face and we end up with some 5th tier coach. To me its not about Strong's performance. He probably should be fired after next season if they don't improve, or this year if you are impatient. Its the BMD behavior, and non-support of our coach, black or white or whatever. This job is not good enough for all that bullshyt that's going on. Our conference sucks and they themselves aren't going to pay much more than most of these guys are already making. Not to mention the whiny azz high school coaches in Texas. We are A&M circa 2003 and we don't even realize it.

@jay211 is right, this is a powder keg ready to explode. Just from my observations over the last couple of years, the black student body at UT is extremely woke and active. Much more so than when I was there. I see a lot of them tweeting support for Strong and threats if he's not retained. You've got players tweeting threats and parents demanding he get another year. National media types are backing Strong and shytting all over UT's power circle. Herbstreit is definitely ride or die for Charlie and thinks the environment around the job is a cesspool. Mike Greenberg had a tweet up lambasting UT admins for their "treatment" of Strong and urging Herman not to come. Then you got Ketch and his flunkies saying Strong is using the kids as a shield and that he played the admins today at the PC by publicly stating he hasn't spoken to anyone about his job status and having Herbie relay that message as well. OB says that's false so now people on that site are questioning Strong's character. Emotions are running high on both sides. A part of me hopes this blows up as well.

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[Numpsay]

I have no problem with that, but jay is right, you can't fire him before 4 years if you can't get Herman, Petersen of someone like Balt Harbaugh or Chip Kelly. You may even have a problem luring someone because this is the second time the BMDs have been acting in their own interests. Texas has a lot of advantages but its not worth all the crazy to most personalities when they have options. And no those "racist rich white men" would not have accepted 7 wins. Why you think I got out of Texas Exes and stop going to games. I had heard enough of that shyt. They never wanted him from the beginning. They continuously talked about removing him as soon as he got to UT and balked about him not having the experience necessary to be coaching at UT. Herman does? Fukk outta here with that. Herman may get hired and be the next great one, but don't give me that bullshyt double standard. Just say what you think. Like I said in another thread, I hope this shyt blows up in our face and we end up with some 5th tier coach. To me its not about Strong's performance. He probably should be fired after next season if they don't improve, or this year if you are impatient. Its the BMD behavior, and non-support of our coach, black or white or whatever. This job is not good enough for all that bullshyt that's going on. Our conference sucks and they themselves aren't going to pay much more than most of these guys are already making. Not to mention the whiny azz high school coaches in Texas. We are A&M circa 2003 and we don't even realize it.

7 wins and a bowl game and Fenves was going to give the BMD's the middle finger and tell them to go cry in the corner. Remember Fenves is the UT president, not the AD, his job isn't tied to athletics, so he doesn't have to answer the BMD's, and I'd be surprised if he would even answer their calls and that is if they even have his number. And I think the BMD's being totally anti strong is being a bit exaggerated. The Houston contingent have been all in on Herman, which is understandable, but the Dallas contingent were pro-Strong the majority of the season, and the Houston guys would have accepted him being retained at 7-5 since their would be a bowl game and a chance at 8 wins. Sure you have your outliers but to say all of them were anti Strong is disingenuous.


What changed everything was the loss to Kansas, who everybody assumed was an automatic win, and the TCU game would then be where a lot of the BMDs drew their line in the sand. There is really no excusing that and everyone is pretty much on board with a coaching change at this point.

And we can lament about the lack of support, some never wanting him here, etc... and all that jazz, but winning would have cured all that. A marginal season this year we have gotten Charlie to his 4th year. He couldn't manage that, this team should have no less than 8 wins at this point.

 

[rantanamo]

Quan knows what's up from the inside, but he's trying to keep his job. Listen to him at the 12:00 minute mark.

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The AD and President have the final say.....................as far as signing off on the state hire, but that's it. Was trying to explain before that at football schools, the BMDs make these decisions. Pres and AD just sign off on the hire and state salary. BMDs pay the millions. If they don't agree, the AD is likely gone, and if the BMDs have the right people in place, the President goes too. UT just lost a President a couple of years ago, not a coincidence. The nepotism stuff was a long going practice that all of a sudden is a big deal around the time the AD is let go? The way UT BMDs are doing this, its a shyt show. Gurantee, they were the "sources".

 

[Numpsay]

Nah. The BMDs do not have the power to force a University president out. His job isn't tied to athletics, he doesn't answer to them or the AD. Everyone is on pins and needles now because Fenves loves Strong and since Perrin is interim, Fenves might possibly be making the decision now. And the BMDs know if Fenves wants to keep Strong he WILL keep Strong no matter what they say. If this was purely a Perrin decision this would be done already. Remember Perrin is a BMD himself and was basically put into place to serve the BMDs interest. The wildcard here is Fenves. And the way 2016 is set up, expect the unexpected.

 

[Mr210]

I will be at the game Friday

 

[Frump]

How exactly can Texas spin Strong coming back now?

"We were unsure about Charlie after a loss to a 1-9 team but after beating a Tcu team that finished 5-7 we were convinced he deserves another year"

 

[duckbutta]

Texas just needs to accept that they will never be "texas" again...with TCU and Baylor being above average programs now that are going to have some 10 + win seasons here and there, with Houston growing into a power program, with A&M being an above average program, Texas is just never going to get the 5 star recruits across the line they need to compete with the alabama's and ohio states and clemsons of the world...

And while I know there is a racial component to people wanting Strong out...the boosters also want to win...say they get Herman...let his ass win 7 or 8 games 3 years in a row...they will want his ass gone to...

Also, Charlie laying down with his white wife every night...and wasn't he fukking some Louisville booster wife when he was there...who was also white? Sorry but I just can't quite reach militant levels to defend any black man who every time I turn around he laying with some white chick...

I hope he stays there and continues to do nothing at the program so my Horned Frogs can get back on to again

 

[dtownreppin214]

Texas just needs to accept that they will never be "texas" again...with TCU and Baylor being above average programs now that are going to have some 10 + win seasons here and there, with Houston growing into a power program, with A&M being an above average program, Texas is just never going to get the 5 star recruits across the line they need to compete with the alabama's and ohio states and clemsons of the world...

And while I know there is a racial component to people wanting Strong out...the boosters also want to win...say they get Herman...let his ass win 7 or 8 games 3 years in a row...they will want his ass gone to...

Also, Charlie laying down with his white wife every night...and wasn't he fukking some Louisville booster wife when he was there...who was also white? Sorry but I just can't quite reach militant levels to defend any black man who every time I turn around he laying with some white chick...

I hope he stays there and continues to do nothing at the program so my Horned Frogs can get back on to again

nikka in here posting vitriol towards Charlie Strong da gawd but ain't post nan thoughts on the Boys in 2 weeks?