“We don’t really have a superstar of this generation just yet”-Doechii

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Odd comment Doechii given that Sabrina Carptenter, Chappel Roan, and Billie Eilish are undeniable superstars right now.


Juice was no where near a superstar. He was borderline a star if anything
He was clearly about to be the next big rapper. Same with X. Pop didn't achieve as much as they did but was on the path too. Imagine if Cole or Kendrick died shortly after their first album. Neither were rap superstars at the time. But they were clearly on the path to become the next big guys, they had the label backing, they were being positioned etc. We simply got to see how their story played out, whereas we didn't we Juice/X/Pop. But based on observing how shyt was going, and who was dominating rap at the time? Those guys were next up man.

The counter argument is we don't know how drugs would have impacted all these guys. At one point Uzi and Kodak looked like the next superstars. Neither got there in large part due to drugs frying them. Same with Carti.
 

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Rappers and singers used to be universally know. Now pockets of the country know certain artists. How many artists are going to get people together collectively to watch them perform like how Kendrick did on the pop out? Folk keep saying tv and radio are dead but them shyts mattered at one point and was how artists became stars. Now it’s like a bunch of people trying to put their friends on certain artists. I don’t know what the game looks like in a few years if it keeps going the way it’s going. In this thread people are trying to find reasons to say why Meg ain’t a star… she’s been one of the ones holding it down for y’all. Then a rapper like Doechii comes out and gets a little Grammy love and gets called a plant. Music fans have problems now and seem to be kicking the can down the road to not worry about it.
You got that completely backwards
 

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Superstars, man, superstars. A superstar is a superstar no matter what year. The way music is consumed has nothing to do with that.

Fetty Wap was a huge star in 2015, but his stardom wasn't the same as the Big Three's stardom. He made his hits and disappeared in five seconds. Cole, Kendrick, and Drake made a generational impact, which is why they're still stars now.
Superstars the way we’ve become accustomed to knowing them are a dying breed. The world isn’t conducive to it anymore.

Superstars in music for me were people I didn’t even have to like, but they were mainstays in my world whether I wanted them there or not. Celine Dion, I’m not blasting her music, but I couldn’t escape her. She was everywhere. She was a megastar.

Morgan Wallen has 3 albums in the top 10 right, sells records like Adele, yet I’ve never heard a song of his that didn’t have Lil Durk or Post Malone on it. In the 90s, he’s Garth Brooks. I don’t know if those artists can still be made. The few existing superstars began at a time when it was still possible to produce them.
 

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Superstars the way we’ve become accustomed to knowing them are a dying breed. The world isn’t conducive to it anymore.

Superstars in music for me were people I didn’t even have to like, but they were mainstays in my world whether I wanted them there or not. Celine Dion, I’m not blasting her music, but I couldn’t escape her. She was everywhere. She was a megastar.

Morgan Wallen has 3 albums in the top 10 right, sells records like Adele, yet I’ve never heard a song of his that didn’t have Lil Durk or Post Malone on it. In the 90s, he’s Garth Brooks. I don’t know if those artists can still be made. The few existing superstars began at a time when it was still possible to produce them.

What hurts is that there's no equivalent to MTV or VH1 where artists of all genres can get rotation. Everyone's listening to the music they want and at the same time, they're not being exposed to anything outside of their bubble. It makes it difficult for new stars to come through, so when you do get those inescapable hits ("Not Like Us," "Espresso"), it means something.

I don't actively listen to radio, but when I'm outside at the store or in an Uber, I'll always hear something that catches my ear and I'll save it on a playlist for later or stream it immediately. It helps expose me to older artists from previous decades and current songs when they blew up. During the pandemic, I kept hearing "Adore You" over and over at the store. I never played that song on my own, but I couldn't stop hearing it. "Light Switch" and "2step" were also songs that might as well have went diamond with how often I was hearing them. I literally became a Phil Collins fan because I kept hearing "Two Hearts" at Walgreens in 2021. Then I heard it at CVS that same year. :russ:
 
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