We have about 12 years left

[Professor Emeritus]

that's fukking bullshyt

nothing is gonna be different in 12 years if it said around 2100, OK. or maybe this is just to drum up urgency

I don't think you understand how catastrophic collapse works.

If you burn enough Amazon rain forest, melt enough Antarctic ice, it doesn't just come back. In fact, there are signs that certain effects even accelerate other effects.

Think of it like an avalanche. If you're at the bottom of the hill, and someone starts kicking at the snow on the top, you think, "They're a long way from me." Then they manage to create a mini-avalanche up there and you say, "That won't affect me." And so on and so on, but by the time there's a huge avalanche halfway down the hill, you ain't got no chance to stop them. It might not have hit you yet, but you are FAR past the ability to influence the next sequence of events.

We're at the stage where a$$holes are creating mini-avalanches on the top of the hill like crazy, and some of them are already growing substantially is size. We are really damn close to watching the whole side of the hill just collapse, and at that point there ain't no going back anymore.

 

[the cac mamba]

I don't think you understand how catastrophic collapse works.

If you burn enough Amazon rain forest, melt enough Antarctic ice, it doesn't just come back. In fact, there are signs that certain effects even accelerate other effects.

Think of it like an avalanche. If you're at the bottom of the hill, and someone starts kicking at the snow on the top, you think, "They're a long way from me." Then they manage to create a mini-avalanche up there and you say, "That won't affect me." And so on and so on, but by the time there's a huge avalanche halfway down the hill, you ain't got no chance to stop them. It might not have hit you yet, but you are FAR past the ability to influence the next sequence of events.

We're at the stage where a$$holes are creating mini-avalanches on the top of the hill like crazy, and some of them are already growing substantially is size. We are really damn close to watching the whole side of the hill just collapse, and at that point there ain't no going back anymore.

weren't the earth's ice caps supposed to melt by 2014?

i dont deny it will happen eventually, but im not buying 12 years. 2100 sounds reasonable

 

[acri1]

weren't the earth's ice caps supposed to melt by 2014?

i dont deny it will happen eventually, but im not buying 12 years. 2100 sounds reasonable

If only the scientists on the IPCC who study this for a living had your level of expertise.

 

[SNG]

God, has nothing to do with this... cacs made this happen...

Cacs are the most spritually unconnected group. There free will to conquer rather than understanding the spiritual laws to things is what got us here.

 

[the cac mamba]

If only the scientists on the IPCC who study this for a living had your level of expertise.

i know more than the scientists, believe me :jayfdup: no one knows more about climate change than i do. the best climate change

 

[Professor Emeritus]

weren't the earth's ice caps supposed to melt by 2014?

i dont deny it will happen eventually, but im not buying 12 years. 2100 sounds reasonable

Do you really get your science from sound bites?

The prediction of the cap melting was actually a predicition of an ice-free summer on the Arctic cap, and only the extreme lower prediction was ever 2013/2014.

This is what scientists actually predict:

Many scientists have attempted to estimate when the Arctic will be "ice-free". Professor Peter Wadhams of the University of Cambridge is among these scientists.[18] Wadhams and several others have noted that climate model predictions have been overly conservative regarding sea ice decline.[2][19] A 2013 paper suggested that models commonly underestimate the solar radiation absorption characteristics of wildfire soot.[20] A 2006 paper predicted "near ice-free September conditions by 2040".[21] Overland and Wang (2013) investigated three different ways of predicting future sea ice levels. From sea ice models and recent satellite images it can be expected that a sea ice free summer will come before 2020.[22] The IPCC AR5 (for at least one scenario) estimates an ice-free summer might occur around 2050.[3] The Third U.S. National Climate Assessment (NCA), released May 6, 2014, reports that the Arctic Ocean is expected to be ice free in summer before mid-century. Models that best match historical trends project a nearly ice-free Arctic in the summer by the 2030s.[23] However, these models do tend to underestimate the rate of sea ice loss since 2007. Based on the outcomes of several different models, Overland and Wang (2013) put the early limit for a sea ice free summer Arctic near 2040.[22]

 

[Strapped]

The Market will save us
#invisiblehand

Markets will fall sir

 

[Triipe]

The problem of Environmental Abuse and throwing our waste into the environment should be separated from "climate change" predictions.

Climate scientist projecting what the temperature of the atmosphere will be in a 100 years is the peak of academic pretentiousness. and its far too abstract for the average person to care about the fact that the global Temp will change by (+/- 5 celcius)

If the issues of Personal Waste and Business Waste weren't so commingled then I feel like the passive environmental abuses that people cause would be limited. the initiative should be to limit excessive personal plastics and other wasteful consumption and then the business should have some sort of incentivised mechanisms to get them to cut back harmful emissions.


An overarching policy to tackle both issues will only end up destroy personal liberties, "you can't own a gasoline car because its harmful" and a bunch of hippy dippy fools saying "bike to work breh and eat lab grown tofu burgers....it's the same thing as organic beef"


seen some crack pot Journalist talking bout eating bugs, being the eco friendly way to operate in the 2020+ years....... that ain't it

 

[ZoeGod]

It’s too late. Might as well stock up in guns and ammo because being a warlord in the late 2020s to 2030s will be lucrative.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

New York Mag’s Climate Disaster Porn Gets It Painfully Wrong



This is the worst case scenario in our lifetime imo, if anything it’d just make the case for some form of economic democracy much more pertient.

Tho I have a very nagging feeling capitalism could very well reinvent itself by tackling the climate crisis since. Way more lucrative in the long run.​

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

they ain't pressed about mars exploration for no reason

the rest of us bout to be left here to rot

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

There isn't a big enough

 

[Sohh_lifted]

*Busta voice* THERES ONLY 12 YEARS LEFT MAHAHA

 

[BoBurnz]

So you're saying Manny Diaz has a 12 year window?

 

[88m3]

living my best life