We know that Hebrews & Egyptians are black but

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It’s the grandest civilization in Africa. It’s not hard to understand. It’s like asking why Asian people talk about the Han dynasty and not what was going on in Laos or Vietnam thousands of years ago.
Only the Chinese really glorify the Han Dynasty. Talk to some Vietnamese and many would say they were imperialist colonizers :pachaha:


This Egypt dikkriding is definitely getiing out of hand.
 

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It’s the grandest civilization in Africa. It’s not hard to understand. It’s like asking why Asian people talk about the Han dynasty and not what was going on in Laos or Vietnam thousands of years ago.
and if we've started :snoop: if think so then you are vastly ill equipped to understand African history as a whole, there's quite a few kingdoms I would put over Egypt
Only the Chinese really glorify the Han Dynasty. Talk to some Vietnamese and many would say they were imperialist colonizers :pachaha:


This Egypt dikkriding is definitely getiing out of hand.
THANK YOU, this shyt is nonsensical :dahell:
 

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Ancient Egyptians looked nothing like Ethiopians, Eritreans or Sudanese. Ethiopians and Eritreans claim Solomon and Southern Yemen Kingdoms therefore can't be Ancient Egyptian. Same goes for Sudanese, they speak Arabic so they can't be Ancient Egyptian.

when you say “sudanese” which people in present Sudan are you referring to
 

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Only the Chinese really glorify the Han Dynasty. Talk to some Vietnamese and many would say they were imperialist colonizers :pachaha:


This Egypt dikkriding is definitely getiing out of hand.

I haven’t heard a single Asian say shyt about Ancient SE Asia. The media hasn’t put any focus on that part of history either. In fact this was the first time I googled it in life :russ:
 

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and if we've started :snoop: if think so then you are vastly ill equipped to understand African history as a whole, there's quite a few kingdoms I would put over Egypt
THANK YOU, this shyt is nonsensical :dahell:

Name them because you reaching :mjlol:
 

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Songhai Empire
Mali Kingdom
Benin Empire
Ashanti Empire
Sokoto Caliphate
Nok Civilization

If you're knowledge of Africa is only of Egypt then you're doing a piss poor job of trying to keep up with historical data

No.....and I knew about all those places already. I went to an HBCU. You reaching like a muthafukker. The strongest civilization out of that list is Ancient Mali. And It lasted a few centuries then fell compared to Ancient Egypt which lasted THOUSANDS of years before its decline. Only a handful of Mansas are worth talking about compared to endless amounts of Ancient Egyptian Pharoahs/Kings and Queens. Egypt was better connected to the rest of the world so you can clearly see its influences in neighboring civilizations. Egypt’s society was more fascinating/mystical/breathtaking, left more treasures and artifacts behind, and when you include the neighboring Nile Valley civilizations such as Nubia, Punt and the Green Sahara civilizations before that its even more of a landslide. We can have pride in West Africa but let’s not be unrealistic. And the great thing is we don’t have to choose between the two because Black people were in Ancient Egypt.
 

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No.....and I knew about all those places already. I went to an HBCU. You reaching like a muthafukker. The strongest civilization out of that list is Ancient Mali. And It lasted a few centuries then fell compared to Ancient Egypt which lasted THOUSANDS of years before its decline. Only a handful of Mansas are worth talking about compared to endless amounts of Ancient Egyptian Pharoahs/Kings and Queens. Egypt was better connected to the rest of the world so you can clearly see its influences in neighboring civilizations. Egypt’s society was more fascinating/mystical/breathtaking, left more treasures and artifacts behind, and when you include the neighboring Nile Valley civilizations such as Nubia, Punt and the Green Sahara civilizations before that its even more of a landslide. We can have pride in West Africa but let’s not be unrealistic. And the great thing is we don’t have to choose between the two because Black people were in Ancient Egypt.
Understand the only reason Egypt even survived conquest after conquest was because it was largely a multicultural empire and had to adapt to whoever was the reigning pharaoh at the time. Black people within that region were in Egypt but clearly overtime migrated elsewhere and we are now left with what we have now. Cleopatra a Greek women who was the last reigning pharaoh in Egypt should tell you something right then and there at what state Egypt was in during it's final decline
 

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Understand the only reason Egypt even survived conquest after conquest was because it was largely a multicultural empire and had to adapt to whoever was the reigning pharaoh at the time. Black people within that region were in Egypt but clearly overtime migrated elsewhere and we are now left with what we have now. Cleopatra a Greek women who was the last reigning pharaoh in Egypt should tell you something right then and there at what state Egypt was in during it's final decline

That’s true but that’s a span of thousands of years. America’s been around 250 odd years. We can’t even comprehend a country being around for 3000 or 4,000 years. Of course there will be changes. Cleopatra lived during the time of Ceasar, about three centuries after Alexander. That’s 2,000 years ago. Egypt was popping 3,500 years before that. THAT IS A LONG TIME. And there’s so much confusion surrounding Kemet that no one can say with absolute certainty when it truly began. We could be off by thousands of years. I say that to say that it’s not surprising that it went through the amount of changes that it did. The Sahara kept other southern African kingdoms away but it didn’t have a massive buffer zone to the north blocking it off from non-African groups like let’s say China which had thousands of miles of open rural land you have to traverse to get to the cities on the coast. Egypt sat right on the nexus of three continents and everyone wanted its riches. And when other groups came in, the decline soon followed, so that’s all that needs to be said. Black people were there. The same stock of people that built Nubia, Kush, Punt, Axum built Egypt. There’s very little kingdoms in West Africa in antiquity because our forefathers were mostly back east. Not because we were inferior. The people just weren’t there. We don’t need to be ashamed of claiming that part of our history just because it fell and became mongrelized anymore than White people should be ashamed of claiming Rome because it fell. Empires fall :yeshrug:
 

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That’s true but that’s a span of thousands of years. America’s been around 250 odd years. We can’t even comprehend a country being around for 3000 or 4,000 years. Of course there will be changes. Cleopatra lived during the time of Ceasar, about three centuries after Alexander. That’s 2,000 years ago. Egypt was popping 3,500 years before that. THAT IS A LONG TIME. And there’s so much confusion surrounding Kemet that no one can say with absolute certainty when it truly began. We could be off by thousands of years. I say that to say that it’s not surprising that it went through the amount of changes that it did. The Sahara kept other southern African kingdoms away but it didn’t have a massive buffer zone to the north blocking it off from non-African groups like let’s say China which had thousands of miles of open rural land you have to traverse to get to the cities on the coast. Egypt sat right on the nexus of three continents and everyone wanted its riches. And when other groups came in, the decline soon followed, so that’s all that needs to be said. Black people were there. The same stock of people that built Nubia, Kush, Punt, Axum built Egypt. There’s very little kingdoms in West Africa in antiquity because our forefathers were mostly back east. Not because we were inferior. The people just weren’t there. We don’t need to be ashamed of claiming that part of our history just because it fell and became mongrelized anymore than White people should be ashamed of claiming Rome because it fell. Empires fall :yeshrug:
I agree with everything you say except the bolded. And that’s because of language if you follow linguistics and understand language clusters most west Africans languages don’t resemble Semitic languages. Granted their might have been a migration i firmly believe we are own thing totally separate from Egypt. I can’t find one language in the area that bears any resemblance. If a large majority of us were to be descended from Egypt Or any other Semitic region then that should show in our languages. No traces of that unless you can prove me wrong
 

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That’s true but that’s a span of thousands of years. America’s been around 250 odd years. We can’t even comprehend a country being around for 3000 or 4,000 years. Of course there will be changes. Cleopatra lived during the time of Ceasar, about three centuries after Alexander. That’s 2,000 years ago. Egypt was popping 3,500 years before that. THAT IS A LONG TIME. And there’s so much confusion surrounding Kemet that no one can say with absolute certainty when it truly began. We could be off by thousands of years. I say that to say that it’s not surprising that it went through the amount of changes that it did. The Sahara kept other southern African kingdoms away but it didn’t have a massive buffer zone to the north blocking it off from non-African groups like let’s say China which had thousands of miles of open rural land you have to traverse to get to the cities on the coast. Egypt sat right on the nexus of three continents and everyone wanted its riches. And when other groups came in, the decline soon followed, so that’s all that needs to be said. Black people were there. The same stock of people that built Nubia, Kush, Punt, Axum built Egypt. There’s very little kingdoms in West Africa in antiquity because our forefathers were mostly back east. Not because we were inferior. The people just weren’t there. We don’t need to be ashamed of claiming that part of our history just because it fell and became mongrelized anymore than White people should be ashamed of claiming Rome because it fell. Empires fall :yeshrug:
Plus you act like dark skin/black Egyptians don't exist in the modern day
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You act like ALL of the original ancient Egyptians left, that Ancient Egypt wasn't always a spectrum of skin tones, that these modern dark skin/black Egyptians clearly don't resemble the average West/Central African, and that their DNA matches up with the same inhabitants from 4500 years ago.

Erasure is a real issue and hoteps are adding to it.

@GrindtooFilthy
 

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Plus you act like dark skin/black Egyptians don't exist in the modern day
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You act like ALL of the original ancient Egyptians left, that Ancient Egypt wasn't always a spectrum of skin tones, that these modern dark skin/black Egyptians clearly don't resemble the average West/Central African, and that their DNA matches up with the same inhabitants from 4500 years ago.

Erasure is a real issue and hoteps are adding to it.

@GrindtooFilthy

Of course not. That would be asinine. And this is an asinine comment. Obviously a lot of people stayed and obviously a lot of people left and obviously living in the jungle and eating a certain diet will change the way you look vs. living in the high lands eating a certain diet vs. living in a flat savana eating a certain diet. Italians (swarthy olive black hair) look different than the Irish (pale red/black hair) who look different than the Russians (mixed with Turk/Central Asian/Mongloid blood) who look different than the Nordics (pale blonde blue eyes) who look different than the Spaniards (tan olive black hair). THEY ARE ALL WHITE THOUGH. So what’s the difference with us? I don’t understand the push back :jbhmm: My paternal haplogroup matches with Ancient Egypt. How did I get that if West/Central Africans didnt leave from East/North East Africa?
 

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I'm not even responding to this, didn't even look at the post really :yeshrug::ld:

IF you are that PRESSED create another thread, because you are not about to derail and hi-jack this one you fukkin thread terrorist :camby:
In other words you aint got shyt to say:mjlol:
 
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