We need an alt left

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I think standing up for women, people of color, the LGBT community, etc., does not make one a SJW. Let's not get carried away. We're now entering the territory where anything that isn't relevant to the feelings of white men is useless. But I do take your point about a lot of these people crying wolf so much that we all got fatigued. Anyway @HellRell804 the Democratic Party is not the left.

I hear you brother. You know I'm not saying throw these concerns out the window to appeal to white men, even though it sounds like it. I'm saying we need to focus on Labor first. It has to be about the conditions of the working class and working poor first and foremost.

Last time I checked labor encompasses every demographic facet. It's going to be hard to convince people of taking up these causes if they are scared about how far their dollar goes and what will happen to their jobs, and it honestly has to be demoralizing to see where the DNC and Democrats have put their focus.

Automation and advances in Computing is the next "Global Trade Deal/Outsourcing" to the American worker. We can't sit and wait for the Bernie Sanders of 2035 to point out how we should have done things differently. It begins right now. We can't be fooled by some of these Silicon Valley companies that take up social causes but serve Venture Capitalists. We also can't be impeded by people who put identity politics and their feelings before retaking back the trust of American labor and unions. We can't do anything without true political power.

 

[No1]

I hear you brother. You know I'm not saying throw these concerns out the window to appeal to white men, even though it sounds like it. I'm saying we need to focus on Labor first. It has to be about the conditions of the working class and working poor first and foremost.

Last time I checked labor encompasses every demographic facet. It's going to be hard to convince people of taking up these causes if they are scared about how far their dollar goes and what will happen to their jobs, and it honestly has to be demoralizing to see where the DNC and Democrats have put their focus.

Automation and advances in Computing is the next "Global Trade Deal/Outsourcing" to the American worker. We can't sit and wait for the Bernie Sanders of 2035 to point out how we should have done things differently. It begins right now. We can't be fooled by some of these Silicon Valley companies that take up social causes but serve Venture Capitalists. We also can't be impeded by people who put identity politics and their feelings before retaking back the trust of American labor and unions. We can't do anything without true political power.

I agree with all of this man, but I was talking more from a strategy standpoint. People of color and young people aren't going to roll with a message that sounds like "let's care about the feelings of working class white america." The other thing, which happened in the primary, is that the black and latino political class are part of the establishment. So critiquing them means critiquing the only people of color in power which is a difficult thing for people to do. It puts you in an awkward position. Seeing John Lewis rally against free college to side with HRC was heartbreaking.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Don't worry breh, I got shyt cooking. These BW don't know shyt and won't be running shyt. It's our turn. It's war with White Supremacy, women aren't built for war, it's a man's jobs.

 

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I agree with all of this man, but I was talking more from a strategy standpoint. People of color and young people aren't going to roll with a message that sounds like "let's care about the feelings of working class white america." The other thing, which happened in the primary, is that the black and latino political class are part of the establishment. So critiquing them means critiquing the only people of color in power which is a difficult thing for people to do. It puts you in an awkward position. Seeing John Lewis rally against free college to side with HRC was heartbreaking.

How about: "Let's care about how you will work long hours for peanuts and that even that job will be replaced by a machine in the next 15 years". That resonates across every demographic in this country, and you will pull independents and some Republicans into the fold as well. It's all I am saying.

Almost every major social change was piggybacking off economic prosperity and a strong labor movement.

 

[Gains]

@HellRell804 the Democratic Party is not the left.

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[JahFocus CS]

We need an anti racism that isn't about twitter likes.

 

[the next guy]

I think standing up for women, people of color, the LGBT community, etc., does not make one a SJW. Let's not get carried away. We're now entering the territory where anything that isn't relevant to the feelings of white men is useless. But I do take your point about a lot of these people crying wolf so much that we all got fatigued. Anyway @HellRell804 the Democratic Party is not the left.

I hear you brother. You know I'm not saying throw these concerns out the window to appeal to white men, even though it sounds like it. I'm saying we need to focus on Labor first. It has to be about the conditions of the working class and working poor first and foremost.

Last time I checked labor encompasses every demographic facet. It's going to be hard to convince people of taking up these causes if they are scared about how far their dollar goes and what will happen to their jobs, and it honestly has to be demoralizing to see where the DNC and Democrats have put their focus.

Automation and advances in Computing is the next "Global Trade Deal/Outsourcing" to the American worker. We can't sit and wait for the Bernie Sanders of 2035 to point out how we should have done things differently. It begins right now. We can't be fooled by some of these Silicon Valley companies that take up social causes but serve Venture Capitalists. We also can't be impeded by people who put identity politics and their feelings before retaking back the trust of American labor and unions. We can't do anything without true political power.

I agree with all of this man, but I was talking more from a strategy standpoint. People of color and young people aren't going to roll with a message that sounds like "let's care about the feelings of working class white america." The other thing, which happened in the primary, is that the black and latino political class are part of the establishment. So critiquing them means critiquing the only people of color in power which is a difficult thing for people to do. It puts you in an awkward position. Seeing John Lewis rally against free college to side with HRC was heartbreaking.

It's not hard. Your working class, regardless of color. You're an establishment hack, regardless of colour. We need an anti racism that isn't about having white people love us. That will never happen and that needs to be made clear as day. Or maybe these people should just leave politics. I'm tired of this not the best of the best anymore. Politics should not be a dumping ground for those who failed in the non profit and private sectors.

 

[the next guy]

Yup. It's true. How do you stand up only the internet? How do you only care when you can score points on facebook? That's nearly as fake as white people hiding their racism.

 

[No1]

It's not hard. Your working class, regardless of color. You're an establishment hack, regardless of colour. We need an anti racism that isn't about having white people love us. That will never happen and that needs to be made clear as day. Or maybe these people should just leave politics. I'm tired of this not the best of the best anymore. Politics should not be a dumping ground for those who failed in the non profit and private sectors.

If it was that easy then Sanders would have won.

 

[the next guy]

If it was that easy then Sanders would have won.

Sadly, agreed. The black establishment needs to recognize their not blameless, and latinos votes count for more. A latino is about to head up the CIA.

 

[714562]

I echo the sentiments of the posters in here who say there's no need for an "alt-left," only an actual left.

Hell, there's really no such thing as an "alt-right." There's nothing alt about them. They're basically old-school conservatives who have (partially) discarded the trappings of classical liberal economics.

 

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