We need that Bron superteam now

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Draymond is the best system player in the league.90% of his points in game 7 came of off curry/Thompson play calls.Cavs would cheat and Green would make them pay.Green is a top 3 NBA defender and the best offensive system player in the league.There are better individual offensive players,but he is the best team offensive player in the nba.
 
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bron was up 2-1 in both series and got washed 3 straight

2011 was his fault 2015 he overachieved

Winning 2 games does not make a series competitive. By game 4, everyone knew who was winning both of those series.
 

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2011 only 1 game was decided by double digits

2011 NBA Finals | Basketball-Reference.com

2015 went six games pretty much with no Love and Kyrie for 1 game on the back of lebron + delly as his 2nd best option

those are competitive series by any standard

And 2011 would have been Wade;s FMVP not Lebron's.

And you aren't presenting an argument as to why 2015 was competitive, just an excuse.
 

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And 2011 would have been Wade;s FMVP not Lebron's.

what's the finals MVP have to with how competitive the series was?

And you aren't presenting an argument as to why 2015 was competitive, just an excuse.

6 games with a 2-1 lead after 3 games with no Kyrie and Love, and Delly as the 2nd best player for the cavs isn't an excuse, those are facts!
 

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what's the finals MVP have to with how competitive the series was?



6 games with a 2-1 lead after 3 games with no Kyrie and Love, and Delly as the 2nd best player for the cavs isn't an excuse, those are facts!

1. The person I quoted claimed that Lebron is competitive in every series he plays in. The 2011 heat weren't even competitive but if you claim they were then it was IN SPITE of Lebron.

2. Its an excuse when talking about whether the series was competitive.
 

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That don't make no sense at all.

How the hell you going to say, "Well, we already got Draymond and he's a top-10 player, so let's not go after one of the best players in the league and try to get better"???


I would have Draymond as a borderline top-10 player.


Going with accolades:

Draymond was 7th in MVP voting.
Draymond was 2nd-team All-NBA (in other words, chosen among the top 10 players)
Draymond was runner-up in DPOY voting

Going to advanced stats:

Draymond was 10th in Win Shares
Draymond was 9th in Box Plus/Minus
Draymond was 9th in VORP


There's a pretty strong argument that he's somewhere near the bottom of the top-10 players in the league right now.


I have Lebron, Curry, Durant, Kawhi, Westbrook, CP3, PG13, and Anthony Davis as my guaranteed top 10. That's only 8 guys.

After that you got Green, Lilliard, Klay, Lowry fighting for the last two spots. You putting two of those guys over him? Or someone like Cousins or Aldridge?

If Green isn't a top-10 player, he's only a couple spots away.
Nah man he's a system guy. Love his game though
 
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