We Old Heads are the same as '85 Old Heads. "Rap is Crap"

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I gotta disagree breh.

The problem is your parents....I don't know them but let's say they were listening to Stevie Wonder, or Earth, Wind & Fire.

There is a significant generation gap because they're hearing rap, a completely new genre of music.

The problem nowadays is kids are trying to dictate what is good in a genre that is damn near 40 years old. It's not their generation's music....they have no historic ties to it. In any other era they would've came up with their own shyt....like we did....or your parent's generation....but this generation didn't.

So nah....it's not like your parents shytting on rap. It's like, you trying to school your parents on the music they grew up on.

Fred.


If rap isn't this generation's defining genre, what is? EDM?
 

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I gotta disagree breh.

The problem is your parents....I don't know them but let's say they were listening to Stevie Wonder, or Earth, Wind & Fire.

There is a significant generation gap because they're hearing rap, a completely new genre of music.

The problem nowadays is kids are trying to dictate what is good in a genre that is damn near 40 years old. It's not their generation's music....they have no historic ties to it. In any other era they would've came up with their own shyt....like we did....or your parent's generation....but this generation didn't.

So nah....it's not like your parents shytting on rap. It's like, you trying to school your parents on the music they grew up on.

Fred.
I don't understand what this means and you said it before.

I'm guessing by your posts you were born in the 80s and started listening to rap in the late 80s early 90s...

The premise of this thread was people who grew up on 80s hip hop getting older and rejecting 90s hip hop...

So teenagers in the 90s had a right to the art form ?
 

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Nikkas get old and get disgruntled when they realize Hip Hop doesn't represent their ideologies, fashion, etc. anymore. It's like they don't acknowledge the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them and their generation. I hope I don't grow up to become one of you flabby n agitated nikkas:scust:
 

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I never wanted to be the old head that shytted on young people's music. I do think mainstream rap has regressed in terms of pure lyricism, but the fact is that people are more concerned with the beat than the words in the song nowadays. That's hard to accept for many but it was hard to accept artists not playing instruments. For what it's worth, I think today's hip hop producers are phenomenal and today's beats are so much more complex than what I listened to growing up.

I also like many of today's MC's like Joey Badass, Curren$y, A$AP Rocky, Nipsey Hussle, Action Bronson, YG, Stalley, Roc Marciano, and even singer rappers like Drake and Future. Although some of these down south trap dudes don't appeal to me, I still get down to that stuff in a club type setting. So although it will never be like the 90's, I can appreciate what we have going on today.
 

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Nikkas get old and get disgruntled when they realize Hip Hop doesn't represent their ideologies, fashion, etc. anymore. It's like they don't acknowledge the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them and their generation. I hope I don't grow up to become one of you flabby n agitated nikkas:scust:
Well we were also raised and taught to learn and respect a culture.

When biting, ghost writing, ducking battles is the norm and accepted...

U can call it flabby and sick if u want
 

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I don't understand what this means and you said it before.

I'm guessing by your posts you were born in the 80s and started listening to rap in the late 80s early 90s...

The premise of this thread was people who grew up on 80s hip hop getting older and rejecting 90s hip hop...

So teenagers in the 90s had a right to the art form ?

I was born in the 70's. Started listening to rap around '84.

People who grew up on 80's hip-hop didn't reject 90's hip-hop. I have no idea how the rumor even started. It's especially nonsensical when you look at how many 90's rappers and producers have a direct lineage from 80's rappers and producers. From Jay and BDK, to Nas and Rakim....hell, even UGK were fans of Kool G Rap.

And nah, that's obviously not the premise of the thread if dude is talking about his parents criticized sampling. He's talking about us (old heads) criticizing new rap the same way our parents criticized our music. It's a false equivalency though because rap was a completely new genre to our parents. So they weren't splitting hairs about the quality of rap....in most cases they were rejecting it entirely.

Fred.
 

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I was born in the 70's. Started listening to rap around '84.

People who grew up on 80's hip-hop didn't reject 90's hip-hop. I have no idea how the rumor even started. It's especially nonsensical when you look at how many 90's rappers and producers have a direct lineage from 80's rappers and producers. From Jay and BDK, to Nas and Rakim....hell, even UGK were fans of Kool G Rap.

And nah, that's obviously not the premise of the thread if dude is talking about his parents criticized sampling. He's talking about us (old heads) criticizing new rap the same way our parents criticized our music. It's a false equivalency though because rap was a completely new genre to our parents. So they weren't splitting hairs about the quality of rap....in most cases they were rejecting it entirely.

Fred.
I walked around listening to raekwon album 24/7 and all I heard from my uncle was "u still listening to that fat nikka? Hip hop was about partying having a good time. Brothers used to have a message. Bring the community together..how u listen to him. He thinks he in a scarface movie killing people and selling drugs"
 

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I was born in the 70's. Started listening to rap around '84.

People who grew up on 80's hip-hop didn't reject 90's hip-hop. I have no idea how the rumor even started. It's especially nonsensical when you look at how many 90's rappers and producers have a direct lineage from 80's rappers and producers. From Jay and BDK, to Nas and Rakim....hell, even UGK were fans of Kool G Rap.

And nah, that's obviously not the premise of the thread if dude is talking about his parents criticized sampling. He's talking about us (old heads) criticizing new rap the same way our parents criticized our music. It's a false equivalency though because rap was a completely new genre to our parents. So they weren't splitting hairs about the quality of rap....in most cases they were rejecting it entirely.

Fred.

Rap being a new genre.. built on the literal samples of the "other" "older" "different" genre (s).

Ac facts: Classic Hip Hop has more in common with Soul (Classic RandB/Funk/Etc) than Comtemporary Rap has in common with Classic Hip Hop. Classic Hip Hop is literally like 50% copied from Soul (etc).
 

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I was born in the 70's. Started listening to rap around '84.

People who grew up on 80's hip-hop didn't reject 90's hip-hop. I have no idea how the rumor even started. It's especially nonsensical when you look at how many 90's rappers and producers have a direct lineage from 80's rappers and producers. From Jay and BDK, to Nas and Rakim....hell, even UGK were fans of Kool G Rap.

And nah, that's obviously not the premise of the thread if dude is talking about his parents criticized sampling. He's talking about us (old heads) criticizing new rap the same way our parents criticized our music. It's a false equivalency though because rap was a completely new genre to our parents. So they weren't splitting hairs about the quality of rap....in most cases they were rejecting it entirely.

Fred.

Why is this thread still open? :damn:
 
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