We Should be able to Speak this Freely Again. . .

[DEAD7]

People crave the civil rights area black culture because there was a common enemy a common voice.
But none of those types seem ready to accept what comes next. A competition for resources and capital.

Do you feel West Indians, islanders and Asians are in a competition for resources? and if so how do you feel they are doing?









To me they serve as empirical examples of culture, family, and community values trumping prejudice.
Inclusion/acceptance/integration are not necessary for success... why the focus on it?

 

[Stone Cold]

Beware of drinking that Democrat/liberal koolaid

Spoiler

dont even ask how

 

[Pressure]

Do you feel West Indians, islanders and Asians are in a competition for resources? and if so how do you feel they are doing?









To me they serve as empirical examples of culture, family, and community values trumping prejudice.
Inclusion/acceptance/integration are not necessary for success... why the focus on it?

First off, none of those groups are monoliths.

They often group together based on common nationalities, regions, and cultures.

Those groups are also immigrants who chose to come to this country for a specific purpose and often times with the ability to leave or gain capital from where they've come.

None of these actually fit the narrative for the modern black American.

Further, many of those groups are nimble or flexible enough to change based on demographics.

North Indians in Charlotte, despite working together, are fully integrated.

They work in finance, hotels, clubs, development and other small business. Despite owning them they run the businesses as business, hire who they hire, and aren't over concerned.

There are plenty of pan Asian business that work through underpaid Asian immigrants, drug money and prostitution.


Still, none of these apply to the American black because once again because of what black American culture is and I'd a result of.

 

[Pressure]

This could be a good thread. The topic is very HL worthy. . . But you dudes rather discuss people (me) than ideas. That's a sign of small-mindedness.

Then add to it and get out of your feelings.

 

[DEAD7]

Still, none of these apply to the American black because once again because of what black American culture is and is a result of.

 

[Pressure]

I'm black and I'm a proud black man. I enjoy a lot of black culture, but objectively speaking or from the outside looking in it's not all that good.

Just take a look at our heroes or how people view success or even attain it.

 

[DEAD7]

I'm black and I'm a proud black man. I enjoy a lot of black culture, but objectively speaking or from the outside looking in it's not all that good.

Just take a look at our heroes or how people view success or even attain it.

Agreed, but what is it specifically about the black conservative focus on rebuilding the black household, and establishing a strong community that you oppose or feel is out of touch?





edit: or is it the rejection of the welfare state that bothers you?

 

[Pressure]

Agreed, but what is it specifically about the black conservative focus on rebuilding the black household, and establishing a strong community that you oppose or feel is out of touch?





edit: or is it the rejection of the welfare state that bothers you?

1.)building the household is not a viewpoint limited to neither the liberal nor the conservative
2.)raise your children to be good people. The concept of the conservative black family suggests that someone who dates outside of their race is inherently a worse person than someone who does. That's destructive and is merely co-opting white supremacist logic.
3.)black insularity keeps blacks from bringing additional wealth into the pockets of black people and from a community perspective limits the capital pool.
4.)I believe you are for eliminating all social welfare and operate under the assumption that black people will help black people, but we can see how that becomes problematic based on point 3. Further if every group becomes insular blacks while still remain in their position due to a smaller resource pool.
5.)it also seems you're suggesting we remove government pressures that you view as restrictive or prohibiting and instead replace them with social/cultural restrictions.
6.)black culture in America is based around slavery and oppression and not growth, development that exists without a boogeyman.

 

[DEAD7]

1.)building the household is not a viewpoint limited to neither the liberal nor the conservative
2.)raise your children to be good people. The concept of the conservative black family suggests that someone who dates outside of their race is inherently a worse person than someone who does. That's destructive and is merely co-opting white supremacist logic.
3.)black insularity keeps blacks from bringing additional wealth into the pockets of black people and from a community perspective limits the capital pool.
4.)I believe you are for eliminating all social welfare and operate under the assumption that black people will help black people, but we can see how that becomes problematic based on point 3. Further if every group becomes insular blacks while still remain in their position due to a smaller resource pool.
5.)it also seems you're suggesting we remove government pressures that you view as restrictive or prohibiting and instead replace them with social/cultural restrictions.
6.)black culture in America is based around slavery and oppression and not growth, development that exists without a boogeyman.

1. True, but many of the policies pushed by the DNC break down the household. Welfare being the biggest culprit.
2. Do you feel pushing children to date within their race has been economically destructive to the asian or west indian american?
3. Its not insularity, its prioritizing our people the way other communities do...
4. In conjunction with a UBI or negative income tax yes... and i dont believe its the states job to compensate for the unequal starting points that people occupy, so to me we just have a lot of work to do.
5. Govt. pressures, (A) dont work, and (B) are devised by people who in my opinion dont want to see blacks succeed
6. I agree, I just dont believe that our oppressors truly want to see us succeed... which is what the left pushes.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Liberal thinking has done more damage to the Black community in the last 50 years than Conservatism. Liberals make you think they're on our side, but they don't give two shyts about Black people.

They just want our votes and never take responsibility for when they fukk up.​

Say things racist cacs say brehs

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Progressive policies have destroyed the black family(which was intact throughout the Slavery and the Jim crow era) with the introduction of an ever expanding welfare state

Say other things racist cacs say brehs

 

[DEAD7]

Say other things racist cacs say brehs

Racist cacs say the sky is blue... whats your point?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Racist cacs say the sky is blue... whats your point?

There's absolutely no merit to that rhetoric.

Just veiled respectability politics without any base in reality.

Like most things you and your buddies say about black folks

 

[DEAD7]

There's absolutely no merit to that rhetoric.

Just veiled respectability politics without any base in reality.

Like most things you and your buddies say about black folks

African-American family structure - Wikipedia

"the black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life." -Sowell

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Sowell

Exactly