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1. True, but many of the policies pushed by the DNC break down the household. Welfare being the biggest culprit.
2. Do you feel pushing children to date within their race has been economically destructive to the asian or west indian american?
3. Its not insularity, its prioritizing our people the way other communities do...
4. In conjunction with a UBI or negative income tax yes... and i dont believe its the states job to compensate for the unequal starting points that people occupy, so to me we just have a lot of work to do.
5. Govt. pressures, (A) dont work, and (B) are devised by people who in my opinion dont want to see blacks succeed
6. I agree, I just dont believe that our oppressors truly want to see us succeed... which is what the left pushes.
1.)if this were absolutely true then welfare would breakdown all households. Not just black households. Plenty of children who grew up from. Single families would disagree with your take as do I.
2.)are children who don't date within their race in those communities any less successful? From my experiences, no.
3.)this might be hard considering the literacy and proficiency rates. It's not the duty of those who succeed to stifle their success to compensate for those who chose not to.
4.)UBI isn't happening here anytime soon. But that in itself is a form of welfare. Same with negative income tax. It seems you support welfare, but only the types you like?
5.)if government pressures does not work, then wouldn't it be irrelevant if they didn't want blacks to succeed since they have no power in the pressure they apply.

Institutionalized racism, Jim crow, segregation, poor workers rights protections, protections for corporations, and corporations being able to operate as citizens are blatant examples of government pressures having an outcome.

Is it then your view that government pressures don't go far enough, that they make racists more racists, or the hidden or blatant hand of the government is just against your own political ideology?
 

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1.)if this were absolutely true then welfare would breakdown all households. Not just black households. Plenty of children who grew up from. Single families would disagree with your take as do I.
2.)are children who don't date within their race in those communities any less successful? From my experiences, no.
3.)this might be hard considering the literacy and proficiency rates. It's not the duty of those who succeed to stifle their success to compensate for those who chose not to.
4.)UBI isn't happening here anytime soon. But that in itself is a form of welfare. Same with negative income tax. It seems you support welfare, but only the types you like?
5.)if government pressures does not work, then wouldn't it be irrelevant if they didn't want blacks to succeed since they have no power in the pressure they apply.

Institutionalized racism, Jim crow, segregation, poor workers rights protections, protections for corporations, and corporations being able to operate as citizens are blatant examples of government pressures having an outcome.

Is it then your view that government pressures don't go far enough, that they make racists more racists, or the hidden or blatant hand of the government is just against your own political ideology?
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1. It did, i just posted a graph showing the rise across the board.
2. I dont think so either, but i also see no economic drawback to instilling "racial allegiance".
3. Agreed
4. Those are trade-offs im willing to accept. More efficient and transparent... in theory. I think a welfare free society is a pipe dream at this point.
5. They dont work because they always end up being designed by those who dont want us to succeed. I guess I should have said they dont work in out favor. We cant say wallstreet runs the govt. and in the same breath say govt. is here to help us.
I believe govt. pressures to be the means by which white supremacy is maintained... and the enemy of the black man.
 

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1. It did, i just posted a graph showing the rise across the board.
2. I dont think so either, but i also see no economic drawback to instilling "racial allegiance".
3. Agreed
4. Those are trade-offs im willing to accept. More efficient and transparent... in theory. I think a welfare free society is a pipe dream at this point.
5. They dont work because they always end up being designed by those who dont want us to succeed. I guess I should have said they dont work in out favor. We cant say wallstreet runs the govt. and in the same breath say govt. is here to help us.
I believe govt. pressures to be the means by which white supremacy is maintained... and the enemy of the black man.
:ehh:
I don't agree, but at least I have a better understanding of your viewpoint and where you're coming from.

I'll dap it, but not because I agree. :whoa:
 

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fukk the state!
I'm out.


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For the very least, I can say this white man seemed genuine in his defense of white liberals. I, of course, would disagree with him and side with Malcolm, but I like how free they were able to talk without it being so controversial.

A conversation like this today would have that white man's head on a stick in social media, in the msm etc. which I'm not sure would be beneficial to black people. Our struggle requires free and open discussion without disrespect in my opinion. . .

Thoughts?

To be fair, this is not a political issue. It's psychological.

I've been wanting to make a thread on things like this.
 

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People can be suspicious of motives, but the logical next step should be to evaluate whether or not they will actually be helped by the actions and proposals regardless of the motivation.
 

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Outlaw said:
What damage has liberal thinking done to the black community? Liberal thinking ended slavery and Jim Crow. What has conservatism done for black folks other then torment them? Tired of right wing c00ns being obtuse on history

Liberal thinking didn't end slavery/Jim Crow. Republican thinking did. Not the party, but the ideology.

Liberals have given criminals more safety in Black communities than law-abiding citizens.

Liberals made welfare and dependence on the State something to aspire to instead of working for a living or getting help within your own community.

Liberals have turned schools into places where children aren't educated, but indoctrinated, yet still can't read.

Liberals destroyed the Black familial structure by encouraging 'familial diversity' in a group that never recovered from enforced and omnipresent oppression.

Liberals are nothing but wolves in sheep's clothing.

YOU are obtuse on history, breh. Not I.

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